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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:28 pm 
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Everywhere I go I see guys hitting on girls left right and center or sleeping with girls that just dont seem very quality to me... 5's or 6's.

The only time I ever want to approach a girl is if I look at her and think wow! I want to talk to her. Even if girls are cute and maybe they are doable I dont even want to put the effort in.

Is this a bad thing? should I just hit on any girl around for practice even if I have 0 interest. I feel the desire to get to know someone is the only thing that makes me want to put effort in.


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Game EVERYONE. Kino EVERYONE. Kino escalate past friendly to sexual once you find a girl attractive enough, she passes a few of your qualification hoops, and she seems non-crazy.

From a purely logistical perspective, you have a better chance of closing the HB9 you actually like if she sees you having a fun time with a couple of HB 6s and 7s and you make eye contact with her and force an IOI, then if she sees you by yourself, looking around for a set, and then you walk all the way across the venue to open her.

From a general perspective, if your goal is simply to go out and meet people, you can end up making more new friends, having a more fun time, and with less of an outcome oriented mindset, your attitude will actually make you more likely to do better once you're in-set with the HB you really like.

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Everything that blondguy wrote . . . this is good:
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Game EVERYONE. Kino EVERYONE. Kino escalate past friendly to sexual once you find a girl attractive enough, she passes a few of your qualification hoops, and she seems non-crazy.
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From a purely logistical perspective, you have a better chance of closing the HB9 you actually like if she sees you having a fun time with a couple of HB 6s and 7s and you make eye contact with her and force an IOI, then if she sees you by yourself, looking around for a set, and then you walk all the way across the venue to open her.
Depends . . . but especially in a sexually charged environment where all the girls get sexied up for the evening, the prettier ones CANNOT take being one upped by the girls who they view as less attractive. They WILL stick their noses in to your situation.
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From a general perspective, if your goal is simply to go out and meet people, you can end up making more new friends, having a more fun time, and with less of an outcome oriented mindset, your attitude will actually make you more likely to do better once you're in-set with the HB you really like.
Right . . . think of it as a long term investment.


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Thanks guys this is helpful... I also need to remember that flirting with a girl doesnt mean im getting laid or I have to commit to her its like catch and release fishing. The 5's and 6's you catch and release but the HB9s or 10s you stuff and mount on your wall.


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I used to have this mentality. And it was just an excuse that stopped me from approaching.

Maybe you have it for different reasons...

But you should be gaming all girls while you are learning... if you want to have good game, the rule is always be closing. Sometimes you have to fuck ugly girls in order to keep your momentum going...

consider it... Community service nigga!!!


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Its okay and even good to be picky when it comes to girls as having standards is a good thing. Saying that being too pick or having to high of standards is a bad thing as you are just limited your self and passing girls that may just be totally awesome to be with.


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I always saw it as:

If a girl is hot or not has no meaning to me, it is only practice. If I get a makeoutsession out of it, fine. If not, fine.

Picky is for settling down, not picky is for PUA practice.

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"Picky" is a great excuse for the afc. Hang out with one and you know the way it goes, "That girl is fat, that girl is a slut, that girl is a freak, that girl is _____." - (So I'll stand here and nurse my beer and feel great about myself) Really? Then of course a hot girl walks in the room and there's plenty of excuses to continue standing around like an idiot.

Yes, I'm sure had an hb8.23 with shoulder lengthed dirty blond hair who smiles often but not too much and has a hb7.1 for a sidekick who happens to be wearing red shoes so you can pop your 'red shoe opener' walked in the bar, you'd be all over it. Having fun?

This little game of ours is nothing but a fun chat. Why all this drama? This ain't the Olympics, I'm not sure what the heck you guys think you're training for . . .


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Yes, I agree Kasabi.

The Game is taken way too seriously sometimes. I mean, what is the worst that could happen, she thinks that you are stupid? Big deal.

A lot of people are scared of failure though, scared enough to not even try. Its sad.

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A few things I'd like to add to the discussion:

1) You might be passing on some really awesome girls. Just because in that moment she doesn't light your fire right away doesn't mean she never will, obviously if she's disgusting the situation is simple, but don't immediately disqualify someone who doesn't instantly make your jaw drop. Moreover, what if she's hilarious and comfortable with herself? What if her favorite way to pass an evening is cooking you supper and then blowing you? You never know until you get to know her better.

2) Being selective is a consequence of having options, and is therefore attractive. Men that will take whatever they can get generally don't have much, so I wouldn't be too worried about being picky in this sense of the word. Really, whenever you qualify someone you're communicating that you're selective while flipping the chase dynamic so she's working to meet your standards. Don't lower your standards, but seek to increase the number of options you have.

Good luck man


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Pretty much what everyone said, game everyone, it's practice, when you get very good you can be more selective, but say your only near a group of 6s why not game them? It's called the game because you should have fun, and gaming everyone will make you new friends, and they might have a 10 as a friend ;) you never know.


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I agree with most of the above. In my experience whos interesting or hot and not changes with the context, most girls depending on the angle and lighting, if they are in a charismatic mood, have high status etc, can go between 4-8 in some extremes. Its like the classic Rocky girlfriend who is a nobody but gets all cute.

Imagine if you meet someone the first time at a café and they have a terrible cold, coughing and snoring, dry skin and messed up, feeling all sorry for herself. Not so hot. Then two weeks later you bump into her at a joint friends wedding and she is radiating. Then you think back on the chat at the café and you rationalize she looked hot there too.

I talk to everyone, I like chatting with women, teaches me how they think. I am thinking when the most amazing woman ever comes along I will be so content in my life and with the women around me that I wont start acting all needy and ruin my chances. Rather she will be happy to join my circle and work her way towards my heart. Bit cheesy I know, but it is a mindset of being social and see where it ends up rather than "gaming".


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I think because im just getting into learning pua methods and that I just got out of a great relationship that im comparing everyone to my ex so im picky in that respect. I had a huge case of oneitis with her she was a 10 in body and mind and I really attribute oneitis to genuinely wanting to be in a relationship kinda like how style had his oneitis over lisa.

I have always had a problem with approaching so with her she basically made her intentions clear that she found me attractive and that she wanted to date. I want to learn the skills of the PUA so that I dont wait for amazing girls to come to me but I think me being picky prevents me from practicing and coming out of my shell. Maybe I need to get over my ex before I can really put these skills to good use? Before I met her I would have gladly tested the techniques because the bar wasnt as high.


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