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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:46 am 
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Hi, I've been at uni 5 weeks now and over the last 5 weeks I have probably come across as a guy who is shy and unconfident around girls (though not so much around guys), while i have friends and i go clubbing just as much/more than others so im not a social reject at the same time im not really in the 'lad group' and am not an alpha male.

Throughout this time, I've had major difficulty with approaching girls in clubs, i was too scared to do so earlier and then i started to do so last week and got a few random numbers but mainly rejections, plus there's been this one girl in my uni yeaqr who i had a massive crush(shes like a HB9) on and unfortunately it was very obvious on the outside, i kept getting nervous around her etc. which probably again made other girls think i was awkward around girls in general (even though this crush girl has been giving me quite a few IOIs I havent approached her).

Anyway, my question is, is it too late to change and to start trying to act more confident around the girls in my uni year, or would they just know it was fake so it wouldnt work? Also, any other advice would be great (esp. about the 9 I have a crush on)


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:33 pm 
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It is NEVER too late to start changing. Do you think some people are just born with all the knowledge in the world? No, they learn it by pushing themselves, failing, and trying again. The only way you will become more confident around women is by surrounding yourself with them as often and possible and interacting with them as much as possible. Nobody on here can describe the process of becoming comfortable with women to you in enough detail to make you psychologically able to do so, in much the same way that nobody can describe the colour red to you if you've never actually seen it. The only way to get better is to go out and GAME.

You can start out by getting comfortable talking to women you are not attracted to. How about classmates who are intelligent but not particularly attractive to you? Talk to them after lectures. How about the check-out girls at shops? Attractive girls that are easy to talk to are hired guns at department stores. They have to be nice to you because they want you to buy from them. Go in and talk to them about your purchase, try out some c+f material, or try some DHV stories out on them, etc. They have to listen and can't just give you a bored look and walk away. However, if you get them interested in you and you start seeing IOIs, those are probably REAL, which means you know you're doing something right.

You have a social circle, so use it. Talk to your friend's female friends. Again, they have to give you more leeway as you cannot be instantly rude or cold to a friend without breaking social norms. Try and cultivate female friends using your social group, they are great to have around, especially when you're going out to clubs with them.

Finally, don't get too outcome oriented. Just because you're going out doesn't mean you HAVE TO get laid. Just because you're talking to a woman you find attractive doesn't mean you HAVE TO game her. First just work on being a fun, sociable, confident guy. Then you might find women are naturally interested in you and you'll hardly have to do any work at all to convince them that their nasal cavity is the perfect place for you to shoot your massive load ;-)

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Cheers for the advice, that helps. I'm guessing not being afraid to get rejected/ not getting downhearted about rejection is one of the biggest things?

Also, my question was a bit more on whether the girls would instantly be able to recognize that I was faking confidence (because of the way I used to be) and so would be totally turned off by that?


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Cheers for the advice, that helps. I'm guessing not being afraid to get rejected/ not getting downhearted about rejection is one of the biggest things?

Also, my question was a bit more on whether the girls would instantly be able to recognize that I was faking confidence (because of the way I used to be) and so would be totally turned off by that?
Stop worrying "if maybe someone notices something then that might hurt my chances etc. etc. etc." I mean, that's like saying "oh well I shouldn't go to the gym, because then people will see that I'm going and they'll remember that I was scrawny before and make fun of the fact that I have to grow more muscle." Maybe, but they'll probably just be increasingly impressed with you as you continue to gain size.

You're just backwards rationalising why you refuse to go out and do something.

You can only do your best. If you don't have complete inner peace and 100% confidence in every situation (i.e. you are a HUMAN) then sometimes you will have to project a sense of confidence that you may not completely feel. This is NORMAL. But guess what? By putting yourself in new situations over and over, they start be be familiar and you become comfortable in them, meaning that the confidence you used to fake is now the confidence you really have inside of you.

Stop worrying about the worst possible thing that might go wrong and just go out there, game, learn from your mistakes, and work towards the goals of the best you can possibly imagine instead.

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