Ok so there is the deal. Sometimes when I go out, I meet a girl that I know I don't really want to see after. But I would like an one night stand with her.

At this moment, I am able to dance with girls, initiate contact, Kino, K-close. In the last 3 nights I k-closed 4 times. 1 k-close each night but the last night I k-closed 2 differents girls. Anyway, I wasn't able to go home with the girls for some reason. One of them wanted me really bad but I got cockblocked by her friend. Someone can give me some tips? I really have no idea what to say to the girl. At this moment, I tried "I want you" (worked once...but seriously it was so AFC) and "We should go to your place".

Thank you.

"Honestly i find that when i want to go for a one-night stand type of deal, it works much better if you don't beat around the bush. (For me anyways) I usually just work direct game. Ciaran's Shock and Awe is a good one that i use. Apocalypse opener works sometimes. You don't try to hide your intentions and she'll be hella impressed that you were so bold.

If your in a club you could just find a girl you like and start grinding against her (If its a good song to grind to). If she turns around to look at you just give her a controlled smirk, if she responds then you should be good to go unless you screw up. What i do is i just grind on her for awhile until she's comfortable, then i spin her around and smell her neck and if she doesn't tense up or anything I'll either just make out with her their or lift her up (at this point they usually get the idea) and she'll wrap her legs around my waist and then we'll make out.

I would say that direct game would be your best bet (unless you don't do direct game) But don't take my word for it, I'm sure that other people will have different opinions.

Cheers mate, good luck with the game!

Just a point of clarification. Indirect game is important and necessary. However, for the most part. Girls know that you are into them.. It's all a game, and girls LOVE playing the game. they will buy into it..

For your situation going direct might help a little bit.. but not too direct...

My only advice, is to befriend the obstacles more! be charming and super friendly with the obstacles.. If you do this, the friends should hand over the girl on a platter.

As far as the Shock Awe goes... I've used it as a tool to get rid of approach anxiety, I've never actually had sexual success with it. But there is something to be said about going in direct and being bold. If you do it confidently enough, a girl WILL appreciate it.

Sounds like you have a grasp on how to get the girl, it's just avoiding cock blocks, and LMR/ASD.. To that I say, spend more time disarming/being a little flirty/friendly to the obstacles, and more time disarming the ASD/LMR.

Good looking out

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This is my goal every time I go out. Same Night Lay (SNL). It's tough to pull off though.

1. Logistic is key. My place is 10 minute walking distance to bunch of bars where bunch of college students party.

2. Reason why you want to invite them over. Don't say you want to have sex with them. I use were gonna have after party and drink. I sell it like is gonna be super fun.

3. Kino! Don't try to grab there ass, pussy or tits. Also, don't go for make out.

4. I use lots of push and pull.

5. The more comfortable a girl gets with you, the higher the chances are she will agree. Also, you gotta think about your targets logistic here. I had this girl that was down but I number closed her because she was working in the morning. Also, you can use her logistic to your advantage. If she lives super far, just tell her she crash at your place.

6. After 1:00 am, the closer to last call, start going more direct. My fastest pull was 10 minutes just going direct. This is hit and miss.

Thank you guys for your advices. I will try to make the girl more confortable and be more friendly with her friends next time. It all make sense.
Why not? I don't understand why k-closing in the dancefloor isn't a good idea.

Also I have another question, when do you #-close? After or before the k-close? I k-closed a lot of time, but never #-closed...my game is so messed up at this moment I need to work it out.

Why you shouldn't kiss close till you're in the bedroom is an easy one concerning validation-seeking chicks.

And since every girl likes the validation it applies to them aswell,


Once you k-close->you give them their validation. It'll become very easy to walk off, validation in the pocket.

Now, when you're in the bedroom, you are in the right place to get them horny as hell and get their clothes off.


Also, stop jacking off, get hard talking to a girl and let your dick talk them to the bedroom.

On getting them back to your place:

Logistics often decided wether you get laid or not. If you live 1 hour from the bars and clubs, you'll have to improvise.

Getting them back to your place is easy with false justification.

Chicks need an excuse to get back to your place.
This can be ANYTHING. "let's make some juice back at my place" eventhough you don't have a juicer, You'll have to rely on your game for that one though.


What I do, is tell them I have a HUGE aquarium, they HAVE to check it out, it has sharks in them and whatnot (overselling your place a bit often helps, just don't oversell it TOO much )
Then once back at my place I pop in a dvd with deep-see footage, have some laughs and escalate like a motherfucker and push em to my bedroom.

Way too forward. Go buy some weed. Ask the girl if she wants to come back to smoke weed. If she doesn't smoke then your fucked.

If you have something you are proud of you can talk about it with her. Then at the end of the night ask her if she wants to see it. Guitar, painting, video, computer, bedframe, desk, new funiture. Anything will work as long as you are passionate about it. Sell the object you are proud of to her. She will want to see it.

Stop worrying so much about sex. I know it is all you want, but stop it. You're not going to get any by being so reliant on sex. You need to be able to have a girl over at your house drunk without fucking her. You have to make her feel comfortable. She has to be in control. You can't have a girl come over and no matter what she says or does she is going to get fucked. Thats going to creep the shit out of them.

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Ok thank you. Now I see everything I do wrong.

Also...what about if I can't bring the girl at my place? I am still living at my parent's and it will be too awkward. How to make her invite me to her place?

I don't kiss close or touch private places cause it fucks it up when I try to pull. The answer is always no. But at the same time, I do lots of kino with push/pull. Also, when walking back, I am holding her hand and leading. I might add, sometimes, her friends will talk shit to her if she kisses a guy she just met.

If you live with your parents, you can try to go back to her place depends on who she lives with. I have done this once and it was completely an accident. I isolated this girl who got there with her friends so I had to drop her back home. Once I got there, I had to go pee so I asked her if I can use her bathroom so I went in. As I was about to leave, we start making out and things took off from there.

As for getting back to her place: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mZxFujEdQ0

If you only want the ONS, then why care about making it awkward bringing her back to yours, since you probably don't want to see her again?

As a side note, I live with my parents, although I have the upper floor to myself and enough doors to maintain privacy, in the morning one of my parents will often come up and meet a girl I've brought back over breakfast. My parents are very cool people and don't judge or say anything (except maybe to me later on "oh that was a nice one you should see her again"), but seeing the girl's reaction is often amusing. If they can handle that and are not freaked out about it, then they're definitely one to keep seeing if you like them. If they don't want to see you again because of that, then they're probably not worth hanging out with. As a general rule, most girls like me enough to keep seeing me anyway, and we often joke about how nervous they felt when my dad came upstairs to say hi the first time, if they ever even mention it again. As a general rule, if you act comfortable with something, then she's more likely to be comfortable with it too. This applies to everything from turning a conversation sexual to introducing a threesome to a MLTR, etc.

Back to your main question, the basic strategy for ONS/SNLs is as follows:

1. Turn the conversation sexual early on
2. Your screening / qualification questions should be about topics like spontaneity, outgoing, crazyness/wildness, not conforming to society's rules, doing what you feel, etc. (A qualification question like "can you cook?" is totally fine, but the underlying subext is "I'm looking for relationship material," which is not what you're going for.)
3. Sort out logistics and figure out how to deal with cockblocks, transport, bounce locations, etc. so that everything can be smoothly handled.

The k-close issue is an interesting one. I'm not sure if there's a definitive answer. I think in general just don't assume that because you k-closed, she definitely is DTF with you that night. It certainly means you have a certain amount of attraction and comfort going for you, but she may just like the attention or you may end up actually killing the sexual tension rather than building it.

If you do k-close, it's better to not do it too publicly, and make sure you're kino escalating using push pull. If you make sure to pull away first and leave her wanting more, and continue ramping up more sexual touching, then pulling away and making her chase you and want more, then it's more likely she's gonna get hot enough that the suggestion of going back to hers for another drink or to borrow the DVD or whatever will be more than enough for her to jump at the opportunity.

If for some reason logistics or something are in the way, don't get discouraged. Make sure to number close, and then continue having fun and meeting other girls.

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