So here is how it all went down. 3 months ago when school started, a freshman girl was sitting at my table (HB10). She was about to transfer out to another class in 2 weeks. Meanwhile I would see her bored and gave her a sheet of paper and told her to draw something. Anyways, not much happened except got her attracted. After she switched out, I would see her rarely and give her a flirty wave which she would get really happy over. One day I saw her again and I told her I keep forgetting her name and to write her name down on my hand for facebook. After I added her, I said nothing. She asked me to draw her. After saying that a bunch of girls want me to draw them and blah blah, I've finally decided to draw her with the condition that she draws me too (She said not many guys would say that and that she's cool with it). Anyways, we kept messaging and I sent a message saying, "Damn Elizabeth (another girl), you were so good last night" to make her jealous. Next few days her friend tells me how awkward the conversation is on facebook and tells me it's all sketch. She later told me she lost the drawing of me and I pretended to be dissappointed. So I don't message her anymore on facebook. 2 weeks later she tells me that I never talk to her in school. I said I will. My first encounter was based on just going up to her and talking which was very awkward as there was nothing to talk about.

Later that day I told her on facebook that I was at a loss of words because of her cute crooked smile to sort of explain the awkwardness. As the days go by, she keeps asking me if her drawing is done and I tell her it's not. One day we begin to argue on facebook over colored contacts and I told her that she must be spending hours in front of a mirror and she said I was offensive and I said I just assumed that. I left saying, "I don't draw anyone unless they look pretty on paper."

The next day I walk into the cafeteria where she's with her friends and show all of her friends how far I got on her portrait except her. Her friends are shocked. I then winked at her (causing her to laugh) and walked around the table and whisper in her ear that I was being rude the other night and all and used this as a way to then kiss her on the cheek. As the days went by, I began to talk to her more and more face to face. I finished her drawing and she was looking for me but I gave it to her later by running into her and her friends. I wrote on the back of the drawing, "You are really pretty but we won't get along. I mean you're too much of a nice girl for me." In order to not make it look like I'm trying to get her with the drawing.

After I give the drawing to her, I said a few words and kissed her on the forehead. On facebook, I posted the scanned version on her wall for everyone to see. She said she loves it and all and I said, "it's ok". Then we began to talk on facebook and she said she heard I was a player. I told her, "I guess so, but what does that change?" She said nothing. I told her I heard something about her and she said, "surre" and I said, "I don't think it's right for people to judge you based on your sister." And she was like what do you mean. I said, "Well people said your sister got pregnant." And she said that only a few people know that and the discussion was getting tense. I finished it off with, "So I guess we're cool then. I don't see you as a slut and you don't see me as a player and that's that." She agreed. She was then saying how I make her blush all the time and that it's never been done before. She says she never sees me blush and I told her that I blush behind her back and that I don't really get shy and I'm normally chill. She said she doesn't get shy either but it's that she doesn't know how to react when I make her blush. I then made up a lie and said I have to go help my mom park the car because she fails at it. And I left my chat open. She responded with, "Do it." And a few minutes later she leaves and I leave too.

The next day I run into her again. She said I smell really good. Everyone would call her by my name and I did the same to make her laugh. I also called her Sunshine because of her blushing. Anyways, I hugged her and I told her, "You won't even return a kiss?" She kissed me and I said, "Now you know how to react." The next day I grabbed her palm while walking and I was reading the lines on her palm for the single reason to touch her hand. She asked me how I knew and I told her that these wise old women taught me. After that I told her to write her number on the drawing she made of me.

Her friends were telling me how the palm reading is bull shit and that she doesn't remember what I did to her palm but none of them know that my intention was to touch her hand. Anyways, I text her without introducing myself by like saying, "Hey it's the guy with the aroma. Weather's been great this week, plenty of Sunshine ;p" And she responded with, "Haha awww". Then I said, "Sooo, what you doing? Can't believe this" (to get her interest). 20 minutes later she responds with, "I'm at my friend's house! Whatt?" And I didn't respond. For the rest of the weekend I texted her at 5 a.m. saying, "Finally in Atlanta and had too many red bulls." 2 minutes later I said, "Aww you're sleeping, that's so cute." The next day I make a flower out of a napkin and give it to her and she's like, "awww."

Then during the weekend to my surprise, I see her getting into a relationship with another guy who she only went out with for 1 day who looks like shit!

The next few days her friends were telling me how she's all creeped out and crap. So I send her a message on facebook saying that there is a problem that she keeps telling everyone what we talk about behind my back and that I don't do that behind hers even though I hear so many bad things about her. She was then saying she's in an rs and that I should get it straight and I said, "It's not even about that. It's cool, we're just friends." And then we begin to argue and she's saying how I GAVE one of her friends another flower and that's what was creepy. And I told her I only gave one flower away and none to her friends. But then I couldn't convince her so I sarcastically told her I've been going out with her friend and that I gave her a much nicer flower. She said I was pathetic and doesn't want to talk to me anymore. 2 minutes later she keeps sending me crap. Then she goes on my wall publicly, and says I'm a tool. I said, "Tool with a big tool." And then MY hot female friends begin to cuss her out on facebook and she's cussing me and them out. I mean I had some very real social proof that a lot of girls want me because they would post all sorts of things on my wall inviting me to parties, saying I'm hot, and why I'm still single, etc.

The next day I run after her and her friends to set it straight that I only gave one flower. She said, "It doesn't matter." Then later that day we keep arguing some more on facebook with her calling me names and me just being mature and her girlfriend begins to threaten me to say it to my face because I'm a pussy and all. Later she blocks me. And I add her again, she denies it. I then text her saying, "Truce, let's just be friends. I liked you in a way so it's whatever." She didn't respond. I then text her saying, "Fine, once a bitch always a bitch. With you I have to break my gentleman rule. What kind of girl sucks off guys on Halloween? LMAO." (Her friends told me she gave head to guys on Halloween.

Yesterday her friends call my name out while she's there and I turn around slowly. Her friend that threatened me walked up to me smiling and didn't really say anything. Her other friend asked me, "Are you her stalker?" And I said calmly, "I don't stalk her." And I then walked away.

So now I'm still blocked. On facebook she would say she sees no girl chasing after me at school and that I'm a senior who can't get any older girls but then all of these hot older girls I know in real life defend me on facebook and she then claims that I only meet people on facebook. She said, "You chase after girls in school like the bitch you are." All her friends on her facebook say she's the nicest person so I told her, "Oh calling me names huh? That really shows how much of a nice girl you are." And she said I'm the most immature senior she's ever met and I said, "Nah, I just don't suck up to you like all the guys just because of your looks." I mean she hangs out with all these pussy guys that she knows she can control.

So how did I screw this whole thing up? I mean I was going to ask her out after getting to know her more but she got into a relationship with this other pussy-looking guy. Now I just ignore her and don't look at her anymore. Her friends told me that I was being a jerk to her at first and she had no idea why. (I was trying to act as if I'm not some pussy guy.) She was saying that I act like a bigshot and all (probably because she sees me confidence.)

One day she told me she had in school suspension and that I should come. I told her I have a bunch of tests. The next day she called my name out and all. I came by and waved at the end of the day and the dean there told me I can't just do that and told me that I'm in trouble now. Anyways, she kicked me out because I'm a senior. The girl told me how I made her smile for the rest of the day.

What the hell, I don't get it! She said I make her blush and that no one else has ever done that to her and then she ends hooking up with some loser -.-. We were doing kino, all I had left to do was to kiss her lips but nope. How the hell did she go from liking me to hating me? What bugged me the most is her telling her friends every single day what went down between us and they would talk shit and bring me down and she would believe them.

We both have mutual friends and they all said they are sick and tired. They said, "She kept talking all about you last class!" So we argued and got into a fight and she KEEPS talking about me? That means she cares because I've been bitching non-stop about her too.

I think you might have had poor timing with some of your lines. Remember, Facebook, texting, and anything impersonal like that make it more difficult to use sarcasm. Some women are REALLY bad at detecting sarcasm face-to-face, so it's even worse when they are just reading some text. Despite what a lot of people on these forums might believe, girls don't like it when you're sarcastic and cocky ALL the time. That's called being a one-trick pony.

When she said "I heard you're a player", you should have shrugged it off like it was no big deal rather than try to turn the tables with whatever you heard about her. You weren't supposed to know about her sister, and it should have been left at that. I think that was strike one, even though she didn't even realize it at the time.

I'm not sure how long this entire story lasted, but from the way you made it sound, it looks like you took way too long to make a move. Maybe she got frustrated and has some underlying emotional desperation where she's just trying to get a boyfriend as quickly as possible? I know you couldn't possibly give us every last detail of what went on, but did you ever ask her to go somewhere outside of school with you?

Why did you give her friend a flower? That's strike two for sure. Trying to add a slight hint of jealousy to a budding relationship is one thing, but you should never do it using her friends.

After that, it seems like you two were just battling to the death. Needless verbal abuse and all that. It definitely didn't help matters, although it was obviously over before any of that really started.

One thing to keep in mind is that this definitely wasn't all your fault, if at all. I just wanted to point out a few things for you to look at next time. She's clearly in the wrong for leading you on like that, then dropping you for some other guy. Keep your chin up and learn from the situation; everything happens for a reason and she clearly isn't worth your time.

I didn't give her friend another flower. Her bitch friend lied to her and said I did to make me look like a player! I told her to stop believing girls so much and believe guys more and she didn't get it because she said, "Well there's no guys saying anything." And we would barely see eachother so there wasn't really much to ask her out on. I was just pulling moves on her because time was short and didn't have much to talk about normal things to get to know eachother more. And I was only being cocky when we were arguing. Because she said I act like a big shot and I said I'm tired of being a big shot and all...She said I'm a dick. I said, "If I'm a dick, then why do you keep coming on to my profile for even more dick?" I kept myself mature at first but I then began to loosen up on the name calling as well. I used the gentleman rule thing as an excuse with her because my friend told me to show no respect with bitches. He said that when I told her truce to just be friends and that I liked her in a way, that I made myself look like a pussy. So I tried making up for it by sending her another text saying, "Once a bitch, always a bitch bla bla..."

And I turned the tables because to me it felt like a discussion where we were both revealing what people have said about us because it felt like we were getting attracted to eachother with so many rumors flying around so I just wanted to share mine towards her :/ She thought I was just trying to get back at her like that but when she found out I was being honest and I even told her I'm just being honest, she got all shocked.

-When you make a girl blush, just pull. Make plans and just invite. Think about it, why would you blush around a girl? Work on your calibration.

-You need to show your vulnerbility. Show her that your human. This will eliminate you getting called jerk and show a human side of you. Also, it builds deep comfort with a girl. This is really helpful when your using negs or teasing her a lot.

-Don't react. When she starts to act all bitchy and starts arguing. Just say your sorry and listen to what she has to say. To me, seems like she was in a negative state and she sucked you in. End results is always the guys loosing.

-As far as her friends cock blocking you and calling you a creep. Sorry not enough experience dealing with cock blocks that late.

-Keep facebook conversation flat. All her friends can read it. Use text conversation as edgy and fun. Personally, I just add girls on facebook but I never really post anything or make comments on girls who I am trying to hook up with. I use text msg.

im going to be totally honest here. i felt gayer for reading this halfway through, got to the part where she hooked up with some guy you say is a chump, and then it got a little less gay, but still gay, with the drama.


here's the deal. you cant let one girl ruin you. just walk away. drawing her pictures and making her flowers, any of her admirers would probably do that. not saying that to be a dick, but those are "nice guy" things to do, and something i would have done back in highschool when i had no women skills. making her blush =/= fclose on day 2. you made it sound like you were busy a lot, but what was the point? ultimately it didnt do anything for you. it had no strategy, it was just looking busy for the sake of looking busy. where is the risque chat? where are the euphemisms? where is the advance in the direction you wanted to go in? from what iv read, you went the wrong way in the fork in the road.


you made a few other mistakes. when you talked about her sister, that was VINDICTIVE and STALKERISH. even if you did know, even if a lot of people knew, you used it in a way to attack her. you thought you were evening the odds, and from a logical point of view maybe, but women give fuckall about your logic. this is where you fucked up big time. when she threw out there that you were a "player", that was OPEN SEASON to move in and play around a bit but you went into some attack mode.

going back to blush =/= fclose, yes girls in highschool want boyfriends. they are insecure and want to be seen as socially valuable. they will take nearly any retard with a set of balls. was she going to turn down the gratification of being wanted and seen as valuable with a guy who has enough balls for her - so she can continue to wait for you to let your balls drop? no, and she shouldnt. its what she wants. you were just to slow on this one.

if i came off like an asshole its because you'll remember it more than a pat on the back and a "maybe next time, kiddo".

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I shut her mouth and put her in her place today. When I saw her from a distance, I waved and smiled and made a signal for her to come to me. She came and I held up my middle, ring, and pinky fingers saying I have 3 secrets to tell her. I told her, "The first secret was that I was being a jerk to you at first so I could say sorry and kiss you the next day." "The second secret was when I did that whole palm reading to you, it was to just touch your hand." "The third secret is that what I've said and done was never weird. What I say and do doesn't come from an average guy. It's called romance. Something you and your friends don't know about."

Then she started blabbing and I cut her off saying, "You don't and won't have the opportunity to know me." And then with a disgusted look on my face looking from bottom up at her, I told her, "Nice manners by the way. Sweet dreams." And walked away.

I did play hard with her to show confidence and control at first though. I just didn't want to make it seem so easy. And everything was going the right away at first until I turned some tables. I know I drew her and made her a flower but I did that while playing hard at the same time to not make it look like I'm totally digging her. When she said she loves the drawing and all, I said, "its ok" and I wasn't all like, "Really! I'm so glad"

This is me:

This is the chump she hooked up with:

This is the portrait I drew of her: [/img]

Alright, so I know I took too long to ask her out. But I know she wishes she was in a relationship with me instead compared to that chump. She knows a bunch of girls go for me (thus saying she heard I was a player), I always wear cologne and other guys don't...ever at all. She still has that portrait and even though I fucked up, I know she has some regret everytime she looks at it. When she breaks up with that guy, I'm getting into a relationship with a different girl and just going to remain nice with this one when she finally cracks and comes back for me.

She's one of those hot slutty-like girls in school. She won't last very long with that guy. I read their conversation before she blocked me and she was even lying to him saying how he's the sexiest guy in school and stuff that I was just cracking up over it. That guy doesn't even know the kind of slut he's with.

Her older sister got pregnant. She gave head to guys on Halloween...as a freshman. Says a lot. I may have fucked up, but a slut is always a slut.