Hey guys,

Again, with the baby steps, but this actually worked really well for me. A little abstract perhaps but works to get your confidence up.

When going to a house party with both guys and girls, if you feel intimidated by any of the girls. Try chatting up the guys you don't know, charm them, use your "How to influence people Dale Carnagie" techniques, bust their balls, treat them like friends, take genuine interest etc. It is not intimidating as at the end of the day, your not trying to hook up with them or anything, just expand your social circle.

From this point, expand yourself to the girls at the party, it gives you this idea that you are a social person who people like to get to know plus gives that aura of disinterest.

I have had some good results from this - hope others do as well.

How many numbers do you get from those dudes?

JK, sorry to bust your balls, when starting out, you gotta do what you gotta do, and there's no shame in that, trust me I've got stories.

But your overlooking your main problem... YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO TALK TO WOMEN, and talking to guys is not going to change that.

Last weekend I went to a Halloween party, I walked in the door with a girl friend of mine, I'm 23 she is 31... The hottest girls at the party ran up to me to introduce themselves, and all I did was mingle with the girls, I gamed several in the group, felt a bit of resistance and left the party inside and then just hung out with some dudes outside playing beer-pong. A few girls actually came out looking for me, and I probably fucked it up when I showed no interest in them asking me to come back inside with them, but I was still calibrating, how far I can push the whole disinterest thing... now I know, but I did make out with one of their friends, so not a total loss.

I know what your saying just a bit of a different angle, from a sustainability aspect - I think its a better way to go at it if you want to keep a good social circle, if you can warm over the obstacles and get them working FOR you - you pose a certain advantage.

Think about it this way. You and your GF host a party at your place, she invites a few of her girlfriends and you invite a few of your guy friends and one of them invites a friend who is a master PUA. He goes in, ignores all the dudes, and sweeps up a few of the girls - you will instill some severe resentment in those other guys at the party. You think that guy will ever get invited to your party again? That guy will just look like a total sleezebag.

Just an idea

Think about it this way. You and your GF host a party at your place, she invites a few of her girlfriends and you invite a few of your guy friends and one of them invites a friend who is a master PUA. He goes in, ignores all the dudes, and sweeps up a few of the girls - you will instill some severe resentment in those other guys at the party. You think that guy will ever get invited to your party again? That guy will just look like a total sleezebag.

Just an idea [/quote]

Well just to be fair, an AFC would think of that guy as a sleezebag. The kind of person I am, I'd buy him a drink. Unless he stirs up a lot of drama within the group, and the group decides to cast him out, then I either agree or leave with him. Its kinda what I did at the last party, but I knew I wasn't playing for keeps, so it was just like fuck it.

Its awesome seeing the looks of the HB9 and HB10, when they see you making out with their less attractive friend. One ignored her guy and came up to me, showed interest but at that point I had the other girl under my arms and I was afraid that trading up for something better at that point would cause me to lose both so I went for the sure thing.