Im confused a little here, the more i read on PU and Look at Routines and videos etc... and then Look at People who talk about Natural game, i feel there both very Diffrent? Am i right?

Now im not sure where to start, Try and learn my Natural game or try and learn the PUA way, Playing games and Faking it the whole time? Or i can be wrong and PUA use Natural Game (Inner Game?) and use there techniques?

Sorry if i sound like a total retard i just want to understand this. Which would you choose.?

I'd say read PUA material. Understand how picking up women works. Go out and try routines. Then once you know how to attract women, go natural (Given that your natural game has most likely improved b/c you understand how to pickup women). Imo it's a lot easier, and you are way more confident because you are being yourself.

The fact that there are naturals out there that get laid all the time without being too good looking or paying for it speaks for itself. The point of doing PU stuff is to get closer and closer to that kind of guy.

We do everything we can to become naturals. in the end of every PUA journey, you become a natural, regardless of what path you take!

However, to just become a natural is diffficult, this is why we spend so much time on PUA stuff.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

I have my own thoughts on this issue, but I have general advice that I think will be of use to you.

Finding things out for yourself is powerful. While there is a close relationship between learning about how other people approach things, and using acquired information in order to facilitate approaching things yourself, they are not the same. The essential difference is that the former can occur without action on your part, the latter cannot.

I could write a treatise on why I think 'natural' methods are superior to routines, but to even split the ideas about pickup into those two halves I feel is misleading at best. I believe that things are not that black and white, and there is a lot of truth to be distilled from the variety of opinions floating around the community.

The method of distillation of that truth, however, is not up for debate (in my opinion). You must try things for yourself, and evaluate the results. In the end you will have a body of knowledge that allows you to make decisions with confidence, and ultimately will have created your own school of thought, that being the sum of the ideas you hold true about the subject. This is what I believe some people are referring to when they talk about 'becoming their own guru', or 'becoming a master pickup artist'. Personally I think throwing around words like 'guru' and 'master' is total bullshit, but the principle of taking matters into your hands as a precursor to experiencing lasting success I agree with wholeheartedly.

Short version:

Keep an open mind, try things for yourself, and you won't have to worry about which dogma to pay homage to, you'll be too busy enjoying the company of women.

Good luck man