I'll try to make this as brief as possible but there is a lot of background information.


Target: HB10(Awesome personality, outgoing, great job, has turned down a lot of guys in the past, talks about how she doesn't put out)

The situation is dealing with an HB10 who I have been dealing with on and off now. I've know this HB10 for a long time since high school and hung out with the same friends but never really talked to her until college. We ended up working together and during that we use to flirt and then it progressed into hanging out a lot. Even to the point where i had people coming up and asking if me and her were going out. I had opportunity to kiss her when we were walking holding hands but she was extremely drunk and I turned it down to make her feel rejected and to want me more. (which i feel stupid about now)

However, when hanging out this girl would never put out or display anything that would want me to make a move on her. Eventually I tried another strategy by just ignoring her and just pretending like I didn't care which ended up back firing on me because during the brief time she ended up meeting someone whom she is currently dating(6 months later). I was about to go on the end of summer vacation to San Diego when she said she really wanted to go with me so I took her along. We both had a blast with each other but I never made a move on her besides getting extremely touchy in the pool or on the beach.

Now I got a new job and don't work with her anymore and haven't really spoke with her until recently when she started to text and call me again(i try to ignore but she will keep texting or call me). The girl still has the boyfriend of a few months. (she knows I don't like him, and he doesn't like me) But he is usually not around and she will call me to hang out. I asked her to go to the movies and she politely turned me down saying only if we went with a group, but going to eat, get drinks, or coffee was ok which didnt make any sense.


Some things that make me think she still has interest are: She will try to bring up boyfriend stuff to get me mad which I know she knows. Anytime I talk about other girls she trys to quickly switch subjects or has something to say about that girl. She still trys to flirt with me like crazy and says she is not alowd to hang out with me from her boyfriend eventhough we never hooked up. Also, our mutual friends have all made comments at one point or another of using acting like a dating couple, married couple, etc.

The other guy definitely has better game then me because for the brief time I've met him and he definitely seemed like an experienced PUA and also had other things going for him such as money which can be impressionable on a younger girl even though she claims he never spends it on her. She also knows I would drop anything for her which sucks.


So... How do I get rid of the BF? Should I change my approach(i've tried to be more aggressive and trash the bf)? Any suggestions... need some major help.

Now... I'm not suggesting using a BF Destroyer routine, (you can look it up if you desire)

BUt definitely DO NOT trash the boyfriend verbally. This will make the HB10 defend the boyfriend TO you.. which is not what you want.

You have to be very careful about what emotional state you put this girl in when she's around you.. You talk shit on the boyfriend, that reflects negatively on YOU...

My advice... Forget about the girl.. I know you say you act like you don't care, but she has to KNOW you are not hung up on her.. Here are some tips to deal with her, but My advice is still, give her the freeze.

- If she asks you to hang out, yeah go for it. But don't down talk the boyfriend.. Only focus on gaming her. ignore the boyfriend be charming.

- At the same time, don't be asking her to do stuff.. you have better hotter, single girls to hang out with.. and she should know it.

- You don't have to ignore her, you just have to be ALPHA and act more confident, and ACT like you DO have better game than he (the current BF) does.


As far as an approach to getting rid of the boyfriend...
THERE IS THE PROBLEM

There is no approach to get rid of the boyfriend. The only thing you can do is get her in a positive emotional state, be charming and ALPHA and then game your ass off..

If she is into you she will tell you, and break it off with the guy.

Essentially, you just game like normal, and completely ignore the boyfriend. If you have ANY strategy to foil their relationship.. it WILL blow up in your face.

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thanks for your response..

-The only problem is I am really inconsistent with my game. If its in short periods then I am good and can game her pretty well and get good responses. But after spending an entire day with her like last week its like I can't keep things going. Then i can't game her and she will start to try to do things like push and pull and neg me. She also does this thing where she will try to be adorable and get stuff from me which ends up usually working but Ive also rejected and said get your boyfriend to do it or call him up.. which she just laughs and says yea right he wont do it.

-I've tryed the alpha thing and being the center of attention by cracking jokes when we are in groups of friends it works really well. I think this what usually makes her come back and start calling me. When she sees me out and I am usually the one telling funny stories or what not to our friends.

-The boyfriend acts like a total player and thats how his friends that I've also met are. She told me that he has lost count on the number of girls he has fucked. SO I guess i need to try to pick up girls in front of the HB10, which I've only talked to her about girls that I am trying to hook up with. He also is super insecure about it and she tells me about all the girly shit he does.

-The boyfriend thing really pisses me off because basically everything shes told me she looks for in a guy is pretty much not this guy. What do you think about other guy friends trashing him to her??? Makes me look better?

Also have seen a thread on here that talks about when a girl is overly attracted to you?

and if your negative/depressive she will respond and try to cheer you up. The HB10 does this, and I don't even have to go over the top with it. I can be negative in the car with her and act angry about a situation by being quiet and she will try to be really cute and cheer me up until i buy in which always ends up working because of how attracted i am to her.

Definitely don't do that!

Creating a sympathy ploy (aka being sad in hopes that she will give you a positive uplifting result) is simply absurd.

It is the OPPOSITE of being alpha and gaming her.. It instantly lowers her attraction towards you, and is completely counter-productive of the other routes you are taking.

And obviously she isn't OVER-attracted to you, or you would be balls deep by now.


As to your previous post, never talk about girls your are TRYING to hook up with.. that makes her feel 1.) awkward and 2.) un-special

The boyfriend acts like a total player, and thats what the HB is attracted to... Of course she SAYS she is not the kind of guy she envisioned herself dating, but attraction, as you should know/learn is subconscious and NOT a choice. Anyone.. friends/strangers/especially yourself, should not trash the boyfriend verbally. thats a pussy/cop out/afc move that will does not work in your benefit.

what you need to do is forget about this girl.. It's lost.

In the mean time, Go online/ to a friend/ find someone on here, and read some literature on improving your INNER GAME.

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