I'm 20 and my college started two weeks ago, it's new environment, new people, new HB, so i immediately started building AMOG reputation. I haven't even spoken a word with HB that is my target till i became AMOG. Few days ago there was a college party that we both attended. I'm 6'11 tall, I had a table placed on elevated position and had some strong peacocking (little sticks that you put in your mouth and they shine fluorescent light), so I was very noticeable. Girls were just coming to my table, so I didn't even have to approach (even though I did), but she hasn't come. But the next day, at class, she started conversation with me, saying that she saw me the night before, and asked what was that shining from my mouth. Then she volunteered to fill in some forms for me (almost pulled forms from my hands). She had a wide smile, and she added that she saw me last night, but she was in the opposite side of the club. I teased her a little, asked if she is shy and we had some fluff talk in teasing manner for a couple of minutes. Then, the next day, during the break at college, I was sitting with my two AFC friends who also haven't spoken a word to her since the college started. An there she was, she came with her male friend, and sat next to us and started conversation with me. One of my AFC friends started hitting on her in irritating, covered way that was so obvious, but she didn't seem to be interested. I played bite/hook/reel/release for a couple of times, and push and pull. Then ignored her while my AFC friend continued hitting on her. So, my question is - how should someone behave, and is the game different when you keep seeing a girl regularly? How long should I wait or what should I wait for to happen before I get her phone number and ask her out? And what the hell am I supposed to do with my AFC friend?

Hello, well if you do the push-pull correctly you should get some IOI's and as Mystery says 3 IOI's is enough for a k-close so if you see any kinds of IOI's from her it will indicate that she is interessted in you and after the 3 IOI's you should easily be able to get her phone number, don't worry about your friend tho if she is a hot HB she should be used to hearing trash from douchebags.. btw sounds like she is very interested in you if she is coming to you, and if your friends are AFC's then it clearly must be you she is after so you are doing the right thing SPAM, just be careful not wanting her too much that can make you make some stupid mistakes so just take it easy and have fun.

The only bad thing that I can see coming from this are your AFC friends making fools of themselves. She will then associate them with you thus lowering your value if you are not careful.

Thanks for your posts.

The thing is that both of my AFC friends are more important to me than any HB. HBs are expendable (not sure if I used this word properly, my english isn't very good), but my friends are always with me. So I don't want to argue with them, I will let them have her (even though they can't), in the worst scenario. But I think it doesn't have to be like that. That's cool that you told me that IOIs and similar things are enough in these types of situations too.

Advantage of PUAs is that we are always aware how the game is played, but not AFCs. The also think that if I neg her, it means that I'm not interested in her, so he starts hitting on her. Should I then neutralise him, or just leave him crash and burn?

Also important note is that three of us don't steal each other's girlfriends. Even if someone fails she is still his and none of us has the right to aproach her.

So if I leave him crash and burn, I'm crashed too... Damn males are complicated

I understand where you are coming from. The point I was trying to make is not that they are trying to "steal" your target. The point is that if you hang with AFC's too often, then you "by association" will be just that (an AFC) in her eyes. Mystery speaks a lot about this in his material, and as much as you may want to hang with your Bros. it will end up biting you when it comes to Game.

I'm from Serbia... So you can check if you are right about your assumption .

Yeah, I know, you are right... But that's so f*cking hard decision to make. To leave your Bros. or hang out with other AMOGs and have women more easily... Or, I could teach them rules of the game...

Anyway, until I decide what to do with that general issue, how do you think I should react on the minor one? Eliminate him, or leave him crash and burn?

Take him in the field with you (preferabley where she isn't gonna be) and work with him. Give him pointers, etc. I am very new to this game as well and am currently reading a book called How To Succeed With Women. It is loaded with great information as are many other books and programs out there, but the real key is putting it to use. I am not saying to turn your back on him or anything like that, but ya gotta explain to him that he coulod be killing your game even though he's not meaning to.

I'll have to take him in field. Actually we were in field, but he was passive, standing at the table, while I was playing. But next time it will be a bit different. And about a HB i decided to go for it, he will realise that what I can offer him is way better than just one girl. And everybody is happy.

But generally, this AFC friend issue is big problem for someone's game... It's hard to choose between really good friends that you know for years and HBs...

Very good.

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