Just after getting off the phone to a close female friend. And shes happy to wing for me at a halloween party comming up.

Im bringing another girl who Im currently gaming. My wing and this other girl are going to be alone together for about an hour till they get to the party- where they meet me.

Any ideas on whats good for a girl wing to say or do. BTW (the wing is an ex). Was thinking maybe of just getting my wing to tell a lot of stories of stuff we did together- stories that DHV me.

Ive never really being in this situation before (with a girl wing that is). Any advice for me? Or links?

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Everything I have just said is related to the UK and some parts of Ireland. Trying it out may make you look like a bumbling twat in your own country. So be careful.

is she (the ex) happy to be instructed what to say and do? does she realise this is part of the deal? does she know you are trying to get in with girl no2? does she have any embarassing stories to tell? imo they are likely to want to 'bond' otherwise they will just sit together for an hour not speaking? this female bonding may just consist of talking about hair straighteners, makeup and shopping etc or they may discuss their one shared interest ie you...i think you shud be careful with this one, unless she is a very good friend, and even if she is, they may spend that hour telling each other all the daft things you ever did, do they have other things in common that they could discuss instead? can you imagine if the situation were reversed?

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James: "Cheer up. Remember what the Monty Python boys say."
Helen: "Always look on the bright side of life"?
James: No, "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition."

ariana is right... you must tell her that she must always be aware what she is doing, and to know some basics of the game. it would be bad for you if she just fire stories that dhv you... but if you target knows that your wing is your ex, that can be advantage. she can carefully slide in sexual topics and make a God of you. but in hidden form, like - you know when you love and hate something at the same time. I just had that feeling with him when we had sex before school (job, whatever). we were always late but I never felt something like that with other guys, and simply couldn't choose school (job, whatever) instead of an hour of good sex.

also, she can make an amog of you. she can tell her, that she was so jealous because of other women chasing you, even though you haven't cheated her once. (preselection, loyalty)

then she can describe a picture of you as a leader of man - his friends can't do anything without him, bla, bla... but once when they crossed the line, he snapped and told them that he somebody special in his life besides them, and that they have to do something on their own.

she can do anything, but i suggest to follow the amog characteristics and to make a story for each. hope it helps...

further thought, if i were girl no2, and discovered that winggirl is yr ex, if all she did for an hour was extol your virtues to me, i wud have to ask the question: so if he is so much fun etc etc and perfect in every way mr wonderful blah blah blah...why did you two split up?

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James: "Cheer up. Remember what the Monty Python boys say."
Helen: "Always look on the bright side of life"?
James: No, "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition."

easy recovery from that... just say - everything comes to an end... or some things are better to be stopped while everything is ok... or we realised that it's best for us to be good friends...

but the point of her winging is not to get to the point where you target is suspicious about her intentions. so it's very dangerous, and you should decide if it's worth enough. if you plan to use your ex as a wing more often, then after few months of sarging she should be able to understand the game and how everything is played, but now it may be a bit difficult for her, because it's her first time and the situation is delicate. what ever you decide I wish you good luck

To answer some off your questions..

is she (the ex) happy to be instructed what to say and do?

Yep. She told me to give her a script of all the convos I want her to have. Im just not sure how the new girl would feel about an ex singing my praises. If my ex comes off "weird" then that might reflect on me. Thats what Im really worried about in this whole thing.



does she realise this is part of the deal?

Yep



does she know you are trying to get in with girl no2?

Yep. Shes actually giving me a bedroom in her parents home (where the parties being held) for taking said girl to.



does she have any embarassing stories to tell?

Well we were together for nearly 4 years. Im sure she has a lot of stuff that she could say.



Do they have other things in common that they could discuss instead?

Well they havent met each other. And TBH, I dont even know girl no 2 very well. So I really cant say. Though my ex is big into figure skating and it seems no matter who she talks to they always ask her millions of questions (thanks to the "dancing on ice" tv programe aired here in the UK). So Im hoping that can be a back-up subject.



further thought, if i were girl no2, and discovered that winggirl is yr ex,

She knows. Its no secret. She knows the reason we broke up is because relationship-wise we werent very compatible, but mate-wise, wer still best mates. Though girl no2 isnt very happy that me and my ex are such close we'r mates. Though I did kinda put it to her that I would be less inclined to be mates with my ex if I got into a LTR with someone..... which by the way is what Im after with this girl.

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Everything I have just said is related to the UK and some parts of Ireland. Trying it out may make you look like a bumbling twat in your own country. So be careful.

dev, it all sounds like a good plan to me then; if your ex is still your mate, it says a lot about you and her, all of it good tbh , thats an excellent recommendation in itself.

i think yr ex prob shouldnt paint u as a male mary poppins (ie practically perfect in every way) as that would be so unrealistic as to be slightly wierd, even wen girls totally love their bf's we like to moan about them a bit to our gf's for female bonding purposes, oh yeah he snores, never picks his socks up, leaves shaving bits in the sink blah blah, its normal behaviour for us to do that we all know you are not perfect, so if all your ex does is sing your praises it would be a bit odd

but if girlno2 and ex get on well, then she is more likely to feel she has been accepted into the group already, plus ex can ask new girl lots of girly stuff you wudnt be able to ask then feed them back to you l8r. so i think your ex would be better concentrating on making friends with no2 putting her at her ease and being welcoming so no2 doesnt think she is treading on anybody's toes or will get a negative reception. yr ex sounds like a decent and cool person so i guess you will just have to trust her on this one to get it right

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James: "Cheer up. Remember what the Monty Python boys say."
Helen: "Always look on the bright side of life"?
James: No, "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition."

Ok thanks for that. So pretty much your advice is for my ex just to make friends with her and leave it at that. No underlying motives, or trying to game her for me. Is that what your saying?

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Everything I have just said is related to the UK and some parts of Ireland. Trying it out may make you look like a bumbling twat in your own country. So be careful.

i am no pua expert, i dont know much about 'gaming', but i do know about girls and how we think and behave. (i sometimes have to laugh a bit when i read this forum cos a lot of you guys really dont seem to have a clue about what goes on in our heads)

to sum up i think the emphasis should be on making friends but with a little bit of bigging you up, just not overdo it too much, and the fact that yr ex and you are still mates is a good recommendation for you as an alround decent bloke and potential bf material, plus remember that your ex (if they become friends) can maybe gain her confidence and maybe find out stuff about her that you couldnt do quite so easily....like listening to what she thinks about you for example....i think that wud be far more valuable for what you are aiming to achieve...but also maybe trust your ex's common sense in this, since she is clearly on your side, to feel out the situation and play it the best way she can ......anyway good luck

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James: "Cheer up. Remember what the Monty Python boys say."
Helen: "Always look on the bright side of life"?
James: No, "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition."