Just wondered as Im struggling with thought of approaching a woman and telling her this stuff about 'I like going out for walk every day and am learning how to talk to strangers by approaching friendly looking people and engaging in smalltalk etc'(next part of newby mission)
Actually im shatting self! I only very occasionally get responce from semi HB and to think of saying this stuff is doin me head in!
I mean how many guys actually go out and chat up a complete stranger girl- tantamount to how many AFC's there are(me included)!
Eek
I mean I play drums live Im not used to being beaten by nerves but this is the shit!

Also! lol I found just being in confined spaces with someone makes me nervous as anything is this normal or am i claustraphobic a bit.

I know its being said a thousand times. But they aren't shitting you when they say take it in small steps.

Start out learning to open. I dont know about the rest of the guys here, but it took me ages to get opening right, as in, without comming across like a big weirdo.

Then your going to want to work on getting a convo going after you have opened. And dont just practice on girls. DO it on guys. Im a big believer on getting new pua's to open guys. It gives you more, less stressful, opportunites to practice and perfect your material.

I think the best advice (for a complete beginner) is to forget any really goodlooking women and work on some average ones. Just until you get some confidence and practice in. Then work on some hired guns (cant go wrong here) and then go for the hot women.

I dont care what any PUA says about going straight for the HB8's and 9's. These girls get hit on lots. They are going to blow you out almost instantly if you dont do it right. And then your going to walk away with a bruised ego and then declare that PUA doesnt work for you. It only works if your mystery or style.

So let me re-iterate all that. TAKE IT ONE STEP AT A TIME. And dont be pushing for #closes, k closes and f closes. Thats a good bit down the line. Right now your trying to figure out how to crawl... so dont be wondering when you can sign up for the olympics 100 meter run.

EDIT: Dont worry about being around people. I was a bit like that too. It just takes experience and practice. But I hear ya. It is hard.

Thanks for feedback pal I just find that the AFC eventually does just get the girl - probably accidentally being in the situation that he does give off the right signals. This situ says that we create the correct means to get girl at will and feels like you just dont believe it can be done -nothings straight forward and the adverts make you think it is easy but it isnt for most. A bit like say bodybuilding you see arnie in his hey day and you think I can do that but theres a god reason why most guys dont look like this - because its one of the most difficult things you can do!
If it was easy it wouldnt be worth doing!
Need a mentor that you know can lead you in right direction who you can rely on to take a personal care and give right info at right time sos not to get too advanced info for maximum effect

I agree with Dev,

Opening to dudes and chicks your not attracted to is a great way to get your social skills to the next level. You aren't nervous to talk to them because who gives a shit if they don't wanna talk. You probably aren't really that interested in talking to them anyways, but it makes good practice. You'll learn the dynamics of cold conversation and when it finally comes to talking to that HB10 that really gets your adrenaline going you'll have ammunition of a little more confidence in your back pocket.

Yeh, eventually. And more times then not, you lose out on a lot of girls/relationships along the way- not that thats always a bad thing. (I often wonder how many people regret ever hearing about PUA after using it and maybe picking up an STD or getting a girl pregnant.)

I like the comparison to body building. It really is like that. A lot of people think they are going to read a style/mystery book and then at the end off it be a pick-up-artist. You wouldnt read a body building book and then call yourself a body builder just because you know the techniques. Or join a few websites and read about it and watch some youtube videos and then call yourself a body builder. If you want to be a body builder you bet your ass its gonna take a lot of work and its gonna be a life changing decision.

As for needing a mentor. Yeh it helps. I had one... a few actually. But you can do it alone. Its not impossible. Im sure there are a lot of guys on here who have did it on their own.

I wouldn't use that opener if you're just starting out, or ever actually. Why go up to someone and say "hey I'm low in confidence and self esteem and I'm practicing being social because clearly I'm uncalibrated and weird, will you please talk to me, if only out of pity?"

Why not just say "excuse me, do you know where I can get a really good cup of coffee around here?"

Then the worst thing they can say is "I don't know." Is that rejection gonna kill you? No.

And yes, if HB9/10s are freaking you out, open 6/7s first until you build more confidence.

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Cool! I tried the 'hi im quite shy blah blah' at work today to the cleaner woman and this big girl and the cleaner was like 'your not shy' then i said yeah i am with this cold callin stuff and she said even i wouldnt chat to a complete stranger and shes friends with everyone. The 'big' girl just sat there and giggled the whole time and yeah i did feel silly!
i like the coffee opener for out in the field it feels totally natural.
i want a HB rock chick ideally so maybe go to norwich with lots more choice and theres the waterfront and live gig places once i got my confidence up.
also most guys i know who go out tomming(english turm for pick up!) go out with other mates almost without exception as its really difficult to be on the ball with the playful witty clever funny banter on your own.