If you order 2 mixed drinks in tall glasses and race her to finish, loser pays. On the one hand it's making things fun and gamey, not giving in to her demands but not blowing her out with a flat "NO". But on the other hand, would a drinking race be too frat boyish and turn off a chick who's already gotten a degree and a career?

I think in the right situation your suggestion could be a fun one.

In general I think trying to find clever responses to shit tests is the wrong way to go about it. If she commands you to buy her a drink, by accepting the command with a caveat you're still accepting the command.

Don't let people command you, don't assume that every question you're asked has to be answered, focus on having fun and navigate around anything that gets in the way of your good time. If you follow this I don't think shit tests will be a problem for you in the future.

Good luck man

Well if it's framed as a command like "buy me a drink!" I'd just give her the screw eye and walk away, I was thinking more the sweet "buy me a drink?"*bats eyelashes* Anyway, thanks for the feedback.

Cute request, direct order, it's all semantics. If I asked you, nicely, to pay my electric bill, I'm still asking you to pay my bill.

*Submissive eye contact* by the way AFCEastChampion, I'm having a bit of trouble getting the oil changed in my car *bats lashes* would you mind taking it over to the lube joint for me, tee hee.

Obviously just having a bit of fun , and don't take my post the wrong way man, your drinking race sounds like a cool response in the right situation, I'm just chiming in with my thoughts on shit tests and how to handle them. Take from them what you will.

Yeah, good point. But would you agree that taking a hardline "I never buy any girl anything in any situation" stance is almost as bad as doing whatever they say without a thought?

I agree completely, every situation calls for it's own solution. Case in point, some years ago I was taking out a cutie for the second time, we had stopped for gas before heading into the city. She grabbed some lip chap, gum, etc. which I paid for while putting through the fuel. I did it both as a sign of affection, and out of in interest in saving a bit of time since two transactions take longer than one.

Now I was conscious of the whole "setting the standard of paying for her" and actually felt a little on the fence about how I approached the situation. Despite this, she confided in me later that night, after we had finished having sex, that buying those little odds and ends for her really set me apart from other guys she had dated. In her experience, most guys she dated were broke leeches, always trying to get their chicks to pay for stuff. When I made the small gesture I did, without even realizing it, I sealed the deal with her.

If I had taken the hard line, and put my fuel and other shit through without offering to pay for her stuff, I would have lost out on that opportunity. Now there was no way I could have known this in advance, so it's not exactly related to what we're talking about. I'm just offering it up as one of the reasons I am wary of hard and fast rules. I didn't really express that clearly in my first response to your post, my mistake.

Bottom line in my opinion is: feel things out and don't be afraid to go with your instincts.

Definitely, instincts are right more often than people give credit for.

No , I like your way of thinking but no

explanation : shes not going to pay , ever

either tell her where to go or play it smove


" What , is that your best pick up line ? your going to have to do better than that "

I agree with your idea, sometimes you need to be generous. However, the way I see it is that I usually just do it on small stuffs, like buying ice creams, chapstick, etc (stuffs that just happen because you're generous and not some cheap broke which doesn't make she think you're trying buy her affection).
I remember my AFC days, where I tried to buy for fancy dinner, and dates, in the end the girls ditched me telling me that I made them feel like they owe me something and they dont like it.
Now either I make them win it, or at least I make it so we can take turns to pay for stuffs.

Seconded

"That line normally works doesnt it?"

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

I used to say yeah ok like a twat

Now im more inclined to say something along the lines of "buy me one first and if you keep me entertained and interested for the entire drink ill buy you a thousand drinks" something petty and something challenging.

I like that one, thanks.