Over the past while I read some *great* reviews about this guys stuff so I decided to check it out.

I have to admit right off the bat, that I'm still in the early days off reading so I really could have a different perspective on this in a weeks time.

So Ive being reading his stuff and it really doesn't fit my style at all. It seems to be very to the point. No messing around.

No disrespect to the guy, or anybody using it, but it seems to me that it would only work on girls who are "easy" anyway. I think a lot of girls (maybe its different in the US) have a whole lot of social conditioning going on. So if you just whip out the lang (like he suggested) I think (no matter how much she might want to grab it and do whatever) shes going to walk away simply because of her programming.

Now I do have to say straight up this isnt limited to this guy, every pua does it / says it. But he really goes over the top with it. I find lots of 'if she says no its her loss' or 'plenty more fish in the sea' 'move onto the next girl' etc.. But sometimes theres a certain girl your after, she mightened even be a HB10. But you just want her. And you dont want to have to go for another fish, or just look at it as her loss. I dunno about you but sometimes I get that. WIth the girl next door, or the hot girl at work. If its just sex you want then yeah... there is loads of other fish in the sea, hell if your that desperate and you can even buy sex. BUt sometimes its the girl you want. Well at least for me anyway.


From my very limited reading on this guys stuff. I think its very fast paced with the idea being your not messing with any one girl for weeks on end. Its just straight to the point. And its either yes or no. And if its no, you just move onto the next girl which is good if your just looking for sex. But I think some girls wont respond so well to this, and she really would need plenty of prep work. And like I said sometimes you really do want a specifc girl and that takes work.

This is getting fairly long righ about now. I'll just cut it short. So in conclusion, and based on everything I have just said, I think that 60 years of challenege is a guide to getting laid fast with no messing around whereas other PUA's really work on playing the girl, really getting her defences down, reallying sussing her out before going in for the kill- this takes way longer, has more chance of blowing up in your face, will take months/years of practice to get really good and over-all (if sex is your main goal) the pay-off is pretty crap compared to all the work that you have put in (and thats not even including the countless hours your probably spending online trying to find the latest and best openers, gambits, DHVs, negs etc)

Im open to correction on everything I have just said. Thats just my interpretation of 60 years of challenge. But Id love to hear from you guys see what you think.

You're right, but wrong at the same time. I've read 60s stuff myself and eventhough I can't fully connect to it, it has made improvements on my side. You see it as a guide to get laid easily, but it has a reason. His point of view is about relationships being build on a sexual connection and to be honoust that's true, it's in our nature.

Ever had that one special girl who seemed to like you but not like-like you? She sees you as a friend while you want her to be your girlfriend. There seems to be a lack of sexual attraction/connection and this is what 60 wants to point out. You can use his tactics on both getting laid fast and on getting into long term relationships.

The fast scouting is mostly used for club-game. It's the way you take her response. Yes, girls have bitch shields on and when she likes a guy she'll eventually drop it, but why waste time on someone who's being a bitche far passed the normal 'bitch-shield-time', just to get rejected hard at the end of the night? Trust me, if you're being confident and humble towards a girl she'll open up. She might be bitchy at first while her friends are watching, but 60 describes how to work with that. Ex. 1- Don't call her a bitch and walk off, but instead laugh it off and be humble. Ex. 2- Smile and come closer while looking into her eyes. You should remember what these bitch shields are used for in the first place. It's a way for girls to filter out the weak unattractive guys a.k.a. scouting for the right guy. Just like you wouldn't settle for some ugly pig, right?

I haven't used 60s stuff much myself in nightgame, but I did use it on a friend of mine and it's pretty funny actually. She has a bf and is like constantly talking about him, but I'm guessing it's just to remind herself she has a bf because I honoustly think she's into me. Anyway...I usually do the STFU and stare pokerface kind of tactic and the reaction is great. The other day, she tried to explain me something and I just didn't say anything, no nod or anything and just kept looking straight in her eyes. She had NO CLUE what she was saying, she got pretty nervous and we both knew this wasn't about what she was trying to explain.

Don't read 60s book as if it's a guide for how to live your life, but how to upgrade yours. Society has already tried to cover up mankind's nature and by going back to the roots and understanding how attraction works, you're already having a huge advantage over all the guys that are still trying to figure it out themselfs.

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Thanks for that Trotyl.

I think its maybe a bit of a catch 22 going on.

WHat happens if you set your sights on a girl, with mystery (I just say him cos everybody knows him but really any pua) but yeh with mysterys techniques you have a chance to get to know the girl before you escalate. Some girls wont appreciate you just going head first into escalation. And you could lose her just based on that.

But then again, like 60 said (and I think hes right) you could probably get girls who you wouldnt have had a chance with, simply because you escalated so fast. And I cant remember if 60 said it (but I think its a pretty well known anyway) that a lot of girls love the idea of making out with a stranger and walking away never to see him again. So 60's stuff ties in there very nicely. Whereas if you had of used mysterys stuff, your no longer a stranger your a friend- so potentially your throwing away easy pickings.

Im really conflicted on this. Hmmmm I guess Im just going to have read some more. Id love to hear some more opinions guys... keep em comming!!

His rules are get blown out as fast as possible .
I dont agree with that , so i dont use all of his stuff
I started using his stuff the other week and it has improved my game
I mean I just hold eye contact and use seductive listening , edging myself closer and then k-close

Peice of piss

But I wouldnt recomend usisng this on someone out of your league

I actually picked up 60's material and am about halfway through the two books. What I am getting from what I have read so far is pretty much what the other gents have said.

You are the one in control and you don't let go.

You are not the one who breaks rapport and you are not the one who works for the women - they will be testing you at every turn and it is your job to not give in.

He even says in the first manuscript that all of these techniques that everyone else is using is BS because it's making the guy do all of the work and this is unnecessary because you can get laid even quicker if you don't do a goddamn thing.

Keep cool, calm, collected, and confident - and you will have a better chance to succeed.

You have very little time to react, so react fast and risk being creepy/perverted, these are just labels and something to generate fear in men to get them to back down - another test.

I am in the processes of reading the rest of his material soon and am planning on trying it out here in a few days. I feel like I fit well with his school of thought because I feel like these other techniques are being something that I'm not. Honestly I believe this is true natural game (at least for me) - you guys may disagree.