Hey,

So I'm wondering, do you guy keep it a secret that you are actively learing pickup, or are you completely open about it to your friends? If I were to tell my friends about it I'm pretty sure that they would think it was pretty strange/pervy/desperate etc. Well, not my very good friends, but the rest of my social circle might do. I mean, when I heard about pu my initially impressions would have been something along those line. Actually I guess I thought that someone who is having to teach themselves how to interact with women must be a bit of a looser, as they shouldnt need to be taught how. Of course, this was before I had fully accepted that I didnt have a clue how to interact with women myself.

The reason I want you guys thoughts on this is that I will hopefully be moving abroad in a few months to study in a big city as a post grad and am planning to really start going out sarging properly once I get there. I'm gonna try meet up with some other guys who want to go out and improved their skills. I guess I will meet guys like this online through sites like this. My concern however, is that I will be starting a new life in uni and will obviously meeting people through that and building a social circle there. I want to decided to go out sarging maybe 2 nights a weeks and stick to that so I improve. I think I would want to keep it secret that I was learning pickup from the new friends I've made at uni, but then I dont see how that could work practically. I mean what do I do when I've planned to go out to pratice pick up and im invited to do something with friends from uni?

Maybe telling people isnt so bad, in which case I could try recruit some of my new friends to go sarging with. That would fine if I met the right people, but I'm keen to meet other guys who are already really up for it, because that way I think I would be far more likely to actually stick with this.

So what do you think? Let people know straight off that I'm learning pick up or keep it a secret? Try to recruit new friends to go sarging with, or get involved with an existing pu community?

All advice much appreciated!

if you openly admit that your learning how to talk to girls from PUA u will look like the biggest dork on the planet.

im kinda mean, and I make fun of people alot lol.. its not right but it fits into the game somehow so go figure.. but If someone said that out loud they would never live it down... every time they came around me I'd be like ayeeeeeeeeeee its the pick up artist.. watch out girls..& make a little scene where everyone was laughing lmao id prolly DHV myself by shitting on you.. lmao.. every failure u had would be more material for me... lol its mean, but its how the world is.. Someone else will do it if not me..

so NO, DO NOT.. Tell people.. Your Neo in the Matrix.. You dont run around like Hey Check this out im the one.. *punches threw brick wall*

bad boys move in silence...

time management is the key. i wouldnt openly tell people about it, because 1 loose lips sink ships and you dont want people you meet ruining a university which is an open market by word getting out that you are practicing a game on these girls. we all know girls talk, but something i have learned is guys talk also. another thing you will notice is a lot of guys have read the game very few guys know how to put it to use. One of my roommates would go around preaching he was a PUA, truth is he was no where close, different story for a different time. but what you should probably do is dont push yourself out of uni social circles because that is where you will get to put what you just practiced with your pua circle the night before to use. dont think of it as a schedule more like opportunities if your pua friends are doing something you would like to do join them, if you want to get involved in a uni activity join them. if you dont mind me asking which city?

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Unless you're making money from coaching people, I'd zip it shut. I think most women would find it shameful that someone has to go read a book to figure out how to talk to a woman. They're going to wonder if its really you talking, or somebody else's "training course". This is why I hate on canned material and systems so much. Even if it works and gets you some lays, its not you, its gambler, its mystery, its style, etc etc. You're basically getting laid on behalf of another person. I think "pua" at its finest is only a motivational tool for you to get rid of limiting beliefs, and why women act and do the screening they do. If you tell a woman that you're a "pua", you're essentially telling her that you are not a man, but you use a cheatsheet on how to seem like one. You can go ahead and snip those balls off, you won't be needing them, and they're not yours anyways, they probably belong to 60 years of challenge. Its not like telling somebody that you're actually SPAM, its like telling them you're really a midget wearing stilts under that trenchcoat.

As far as telling other guys, its a bad idea unless they also assume themselves as "pua"s. If not, they can easily blow you out, they have you by the balls unless they are so AFC that they would never get a chance to blow you out. Now you can tell friends that you go out a few nights a week to talk to women, they would obviously approve of that, but don't confuse "pua" with "game". I don't believe them to be synonymous. I think most women can respect game, that's why jealousy works for naturals.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ijCSu87 ... rn-1r-4-HM

I wouldn't say I'm studying "pick up" per se, but if you say that you have an interest in "social dynamics", then sharing information about body language, the differences in male/female attraction switches, why nice guys get "LJBF"ed and that kinda stuff is extremely interesting. Knowing these things makes you look really socially savvy and interesting. (And really, pick up does make you socially savvy and interesting, if used correctly.)

It's all in how you deliver it, I once had like an afternoon long conversation with these two girls about game. Call it self improvement and social dynamics and even girls love the pickup arts.

EDIT: By the way, Tundra, that link in your sig is a pretty good metaphor for the pickup arts.

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dont talk about learning pick-up to be honest it'll make you look like a loser! you see to an outsider who is good at scoring you'll just look pathetic that you have to learn it rather then just being able to do it

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Hey guys, thanks for the input.

T-ASH, I think what you said sounds like the best option. The only problem is that if I'm not sticking to a routine of x nights a week then I might just slack off and not improve. Guess I'll just have to try force myslef to keep at it! Also, if I've made friends with some other guys of a similar midset, we could still encourage each other to stick at it, even if there isnt an x nights a week routine going. The city im hoping to move to is Melbourne, but its not definite yet...

Tundra, even though I've not tried any of it, I also dont like the idea of canned material either. I'm sure it would feel fake and phoney to me, so there is no way anyone I use it on would think otherwise. From what I've read/watched so far, the stuff I've found most useful is from RSD.

Btw, how would you define game and pick up? What would you say is the difference between them?