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Aaron Sleazy Debunking The Seduction Community is a free ebook u can read online just find it with google. I would post the link but cant since i need 5 posts or something like that. If you can please post the link to the ebook here please. The book is an eye opener to what the community actually has become.



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I'm totally with him that the "community" is way too commercial and a lot of these companies have shitty instructors and charge ridiculous sums of money.

I also agree that a lot of guys who have problems with women need to sort out their lives in general first before they can achieve success

I also agree that MM3 is too rigid and people do run the risk of "overgaming" using it

Finally, I agree that if you can physically escalate smoothly and be sexual without being creepy, then you can certainly dispense with number closes and the 7 hour "rule"

HOWEVER

I completely disagree with his basic assumption that women and men are fundamentally attracted to each other in the same way, and thus if you're good looking enough she'll fuck you if you escalate properly, otherwise it's pointless.

In one of his blog posts he takes apart a guy's question who said that he has friends one of whom is a politician, and the other has a big dick, neither is good looking but they do really well with women. He points out that it's because of those things that they get laid, nothing to do with game. But how does the girl KNOW the guy has a big dick until she actually sees it? He must have approached confidently first, and doing so made him attractive enough in her eyes. Therefore increased confidence means your looks matter less. Similarly the politician has social value, power and is a leader, therefore those things can also be attractive enough to women to mean that his looks matter less. Thus you CAN be average or below average looking if you hit enough of the other attraction switches. To a guy, it doesn't matter what a girl says to you about anything, if she's not attractive enough, your will not fuck her, full stop. A girl can only ruin her chances with you by saying something retarded or being boring or insane (actually sometimes the crazies can be quite hot....)

Secondly, he biases his concept of a successful pickup on fucking a girl in a club bathroom. Personally I find this concept disgusting and would not actually want to do it. I'd much prefer taking the girl back to my place or going to hers where we can be in a clean, comfortable bed, take our time and sleep comfortably afterwards. His view of "the faster the better" really doesn't ring true to me, especially as he spends a lot of time attacking Ross Jeffries.

Thirdly, super fast escalation obviously works in a sexually charged high energy SPAM like a club, but doing day game this simply doesn't work. You HAVE to get a number and see her later that day/week because she's on her lunchbreak and you're not gonna fuck her in a starbucks bathroom are you? Really?

His argument for the fact that value means nothing is that it's relative to the girl. Ok value IS RELATIVE i.e. hipster girl will not be impressed with your suit and tie, and professional chick will not dig your plaid flannel shirt and skinny jeans. But just because it differs based on the situation, that doesn't mean value is IRRELEVANT.

He says stuff like MM3 is stupid because it's stepwise and linear and guys spend too much time in the stages when they should just fuck. But if his method is fast escalation then I bet he probably works his way UP THE KINO ESCALATION LADDER i.e. in a STEPWISE LINEAR FASHION. You cannot go straight from opener to grabbing her boobs, obviously. In the same way, a lot of the stepwise stuff helps guys realise that you can't just jump from saying hi to asking for her number to trying to kiss her without doing a bit of work in between, it gives a lot of guys a structure to make them feel comfortable in each stage along the way. Obviously once you master the steps you can modify, expand, contract or miss altogether once you figure out your own style and calibrate to the situation.

Finally, yay well done for getting a girl to blow you in 3 minutes without saying a word, but personally I like to talk to a girl first to find out if she's actually interesting and worth getting to know, because intellect and values and personality are attractive and important to me. Furthermore you can find out if she's incredibly promiscuous, uneducated and likely infected with STDs BEFORE deciding to have sex with her (yes I use a condom but am I gonna use a dental dam to lick a girls pussy? No fucking way)

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