This is going to sound like a very strange question, but... I often feel like an outsider looking in when it comes to "hook-up culture."

Despite being a decent-looking guy and a pretty damn good dancer, I've never actually taken a girl home from a club or party. Now, part of that is because I'm somewhat old-fashioned and don't generally want to, but a big part of me wonders: what are that guy and girl in the booth over there talking about? (I'm kind of lying -- the twice it's happened were because I had deep intellectual conversation with the girl. Major turn on.)

When watching TV, I sometimes ask my friends how realistic the conversations are amongst the 20-something characters. I'm often surprised to hear that people do, indeed, talk like this.

I've got a friend who assures me he's not running game, and yet has no trouble bagging the ladies. Sure, he's a good-looking guy and confident, but I'm sure his conversations sound nothing like mine. And he can't even tell me what it is he talks about.

So, for the stupid question: can you think of any books which contain (lots of) dialog you'd consider very normal (and interesting) at a bar? Or in-field footage? Again, I'm not talking about cleverly crafted game here. Just... the kind of stuff a regular guy and girl of 20 years go may have chatted about before hooking up.

Whew. Hope that makes the slightest bit of sense.

Mystery's main point is "BE YOURSELF." Talk about what YOU want to talk about and LIKE to talk about.....he always talks about how he has gotten girls to talk about the stupidish shit.....why....cause he is excited about it.....

If you like talking deep, talk deep, be excited and proud about it...she will feel your adventure...don't settle for lame conversation or let her set the frame...

talk about oranges being sour, or what humans purpose on earth is......either one, let it be something that comes from your heart....

Who wants a girl who is not interested in what you want to talk about? LAME!

Good luck!

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Look at the video section on this site. You can watch guys actually doing it.

In the end, you're going to have to figure out what to say and do on your own.

Thanks for the responses.

My question isn't really about pickup though. I know what to read / practice to get better at The Game, and I'm usually pretty fine talking about whatever I want to.

It's more like this: imagine a Martian comes down and asks, for purely educational purposes, "what's a typical conversation like between a guy and a girl at a bar, when they're both interested?".

There's no such thing as the typical conversation, of course, but maybe you could point said Martian to some videos and/or books

I'll def check out the video section on this site though. Thanks!

Look up Juggler, he's the master of conversation IMO. But really, just be yourself man. Pay attention to what the girl is saying and if you actually pay attention it isn't really that hard to carry a conversation

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When I go out. I have a checklist of a few stories/conversation topics that I feel are interesting to ME..

That being said, I attempt to NOT use these. I always try to go situational.
Once you get in there it REALLY isn't too bad to keep a conversation going.
just like everyone is saying, just be yourself. and talk about whatever you want to talk about.

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I'm reading Juggler right now. Good stuff.

I think my point is still being entirely missed though. I already know what my conversations sound like, and what I want them to sound like. I make close friends quickly, so I know my conversation skills can't be all that bad.

I'm curious about what other, normal people's conversations sound like. A few overheard clips here and there suggest they're nothing like mine, and I'm simply curious to get more experience about how other people communicate.

Who gives a flying fuck what other people are talking about? 99% of conversations other people are having right now are the most banal boring shit. If you're an intellectual, interesting guy then use material that relates to aspects that you find interesting, but do it in an accessible, fun way. I've closed girls talking about quantum physics, comparative religion and philosophy because I can do it in a passionate, fun way that gets them involved in the conversation and extracts meaningful values and qualities out of them that I can either neg or qualify them on based on what I find attractive.

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