it can very well be, Structured natural game.

I mean.. for me, the structure of an opener, especially with style's touches on time constraint is very effective. When I use direct openers with HB10s I get blown of.. (so for my direct openers are very good for lower level girls..)
with HB10s I either opinion open or do a spontaneous opener...

I love to false disqualify myself, sense I know that if a woman hits on me, and she is easy, I couldn't care less about her...

But for Attraction, I definitely use, 60's Natural game... create pauses and silences and have intense sexual tension.

when I close with a kiss, natural game is the thing for me.. when a kiss is not set up easily i use, structured phone close..


why is it always either that OR the other, instead of that AND the other.


would love some insight


Plus, some book recommendations would be nice !!


Mike.

Yeah you got some people here who are in great favor of the so called "natural game".
I think, for all people who know about game and this forum, that natural game is bullshit and an illusion. Because people thought very hard about "natural game", and if you know about game or this forum, youare influenced. You are only a real natural if noone has ever taught you to game, if you absolutely know nothing about this and the game, but if you are a great player, alfa, seducer by nature-nurture (=role and love of your parents, the situation you're born and live in, ...).
It all started with Tyler Durden with his RSD program, with the intention to destroy Mystery and Style.

Personaly I don't believe in black-white views. You can perfectly combine it. I like to use MM or Style's method, with many additions of ground principles of "natural game" (use of body language, being alfa, frame control, direct game, building up social value,...) and things from Gambler (like his film/seminar on kino) and afc adam.

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