1. This girl she is about a 10 but she has a really ugly boyfriend... im pretty sure evvery single guy hits on her, so i thought of a different approch ( hasn'T done it yet)
should i make her one of my female friends ?? and go on from there ???



2. i notice that my game falls short with a "good" girl, i really want a relationship with her buuuut i can pick up girls but i neeed help on this one


-thankssss

1)2Fresh,2Fresh,2Fresh...You should not friend your way in with a girl;it's like the #1 rule in the community.

Especially if she's a 10(and she is),she would reject your attempts at rapport building in order to befriend her.

What you should do is to NOT hit on her like every other guy.

So dont hit on her,nor befriend her.

What do you do?

The basics of seduction-use indirect game!!

Use false disqualifiers on her.

When talking to her,subcommunicte that you do NOT want her.

You can do that various ways:When talking to her,DONT face her nor peck(no leaning in).Talk to her over the shoulders(side to side),or if face to face,you should body-rocc out(position your body as though you want to go & you're bored).

So you dont have to tell her,"I dont want you and Im not hitting on you".

Your body positions would say this.

Now,how many guys do this?

None.

The average guy would peck(lean in),face her directly,position his body a though he'll never leave(lol),etc.

You are going to be the exception.

This will leave her wondering:"Why isnt he chasing me?Why isnt he befriending his way in?Why does it seem as though he doesnt want me?

Those insecurity questions would leave her wanting to discover you more.

When you speak to her,say things like,"I wish you were taller.I think tall girls make better friends".

Dont say shit like,"You would make perfect friend for me[friending your way in]".

Act as though you dont want her.Give her those mixed signals.

Elaborate on # 2;I didnt really get it.

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thankssss for the help that really helpped me lottts

yeeee about number 2, basiclly i want to know how to hit on a goood girl like she is very pure, she does very good in school, on lots sports teams i would say she would be the perfect girlfriend but how would i approch this, i can't approach her like a player ....

It depends. These ones I find a little bit harder and also in a way easier than most other girls. But it really depends on your game. Assuming she is a down to earth kind of girl and you are also down to earth, this is a good foundation to bond with her and build lots of rapport. You just have to open up to her (not too much, just make her trust you). Trust me. If she realizes you and her are viewing the same ideas and thoughts, she will build attraction for you. You are right, you can't really approach her like a player. Just be genuine, but don't be a nice guy. Act like you are interested and act like you aren't at other times.

I've gamed several of these kinds of girls and quite frankly they are my favourite type to game because I have natural game with them. Although you may end up in the friends zone, these types of girls I've always recovered from. And the only reason I really did recover after being in the FZ was because I was never REALLY attached to her as a friend. So this left a lot of room for recovery just in case. In more cases, I've actually ended up being friends with them before actually hitting it off. But remember, if you do 'end' up as her friend, you really have to give a lot more disinterest than IOI's.

Because as you said, they are pure and nice girls who seem like the relationship type. Don't befriend her too much and don't also act like a complete jerk. You got to be unpredictable but also have a gentlemen side of you. (Note: Gentlemen does not mean being a nice guy, there's a difference).

Although these girls are nice guys they may still want the typical 'bad boy'. That is why it's key to show her many sides to you. Trigger all her emotions. Nice guys don't trigger as much emotions, hence they lose the girl even if they are in a relationship.

awesome k-loc.

I game the "good ones" half the time, and am figuring out more and more of what to do. The good ones i assume your talking about are the ones with high values and not a super skank. What I do is first meet and greet them with a simple nice opener. Come off as a genuine guy, but retain your alpha frame. CONFIDENCE is everything. From there I have a few things that she has said to then start banter. Banter is back and forth teasing. Every girl loves to be teased, even if they say you are a jerk. Unless youre really a doucher and they mean it.

Ex.
(A girl you have just met through a friend or something)

Hey Im blah blah.
-Hi, Im hott babe.

Nice to meet you. But I really dont think were going to get along, I can already tell.

HB: what, why not!

(right here make sure you are speaking loud and authoritative, so the friends and her will have their attention on you, or else you wont be able to say much)

Because i knew a (her name) from this party i went too. She was really pretty and everything, but she just wanted to hang around me the whole time! She wouldnt stay away from me! So when I left the party, I got this random text. It said, I wished you werent so hard to get, I HATE YOU! I had no idea who it was at first! but then I was like OMG! Its her! and everytime I see her afterthat, she gives me that death glare! And you can kino a bit to explain to her how the glare looks.

IDK im makin this up on the spot, ive used similar, but you DHV yourself a bit. and make yourself interesting.

Shell say something back to you...blah, blah. But you can respond in, if you show me your a cool girl, we can work something out.

So you have an opener. you could even skip the story and just go into that last line.

After that just dont give her tons of attention, kinda back off. But definatley make her laugh and show her you know how to have a good time. Get her name and number. Use text and fb to your advantage.

Just dont be AFC. It never works.

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Thanks Spye.

Im with the bantering too;I think it's 1 of the most important personality a social guy could have..

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haha thanks yee shes weirddd mann, shes not like the other girls, if a sexy guy walk by her she will not look at him once haha, she only started convo wit me a couple times rest i had to do the jobb. But i found out shes really into the faggot justin beiber hahah