everytime i use a neg on a girl they never seem to work out, more or less theyre actually offended by it!! and it gets me into trouble at work everytime im playing a game with the girls/ ladies who comes in. worst of all the people from work is complimenting anything about the person and it makes me the one with a low value. during night clubs its ok because theyr drunk and giving me attitudes but for the day game C&F negs doesnt seem to work during the day. should i just pick up my balls and compliment instead of NEGs at work?

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It's because you're not negging. You're in fact insulting.

Stop negging completely.

I dont like negs. They get missinterprated as being an insult. Though a neg is still ment to convey dissinterest which I generaly wont do.

My sugestion: Though away the "neg" and take on "Tease" and "Push-Pull". I find these work alot better and it's just playfull mucking around not being arogent.

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Yeah a neg should be a backhanded compliment. Not a total compliment but not a total insult. It should be a mix of both. It appears the your neg may have more insult that compliment. Here's something that worked for me without even trying on this girl from work. Some think she is hot but I've seen hotter. I confused her with someone who is not known for being hot. She was standing with her back towards me and I came up to her and said:

Me: Hi (Other girls name)
Her: Turns around with her jaw dropped in disbelief that someone would confuse her with that other girl
Me: Ooops (With a big confident smile in my face) I thought you were (Other girls name). You guys look alike.
Her: No we don't (She says after picking up her jaw from the floor and now with a smile)
Me: From the back you sure do

Kept on talking to her and I immediately noticed that she was trying to proof herself to me that she was a hot girl not to be confused with that other girl. Try something like this, see if it works with you.

if your implying I cant NEG, then why dont you post some of your original NEGs to give me an idea if mine are really NEGs or not.

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dude thats quite defensive. people are trying to help.

you are obviouly not doing something right, whether its what your saying or how your saying it, or even how your holding yourself while your doing it.

whatever its not working,

y dont u take the advice and not look at it like negging and just play. have fun. everyone likes being around fun lively people.

try working on that instead of negging and shit.

You should only neg a girl if she behaves badly to you. I get the feeling you just neg her out of the blue, even if she is being friendly to you.

ok then ill try and have fn while picking up girls instead of focusing on the negs and other routines for now, see how it goes
Thanks guys

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The obvious problem is here is your frame and calibration.
All these questions need to be answered
1.what is the first impression value u have?
2. what social situation is this?
3. what age and hb number are they around, basically what is their percieved value bc that is more important than what they look like.

Now that you have answered these questions u can decide for youself to decide whether to neg or not.
if your value is percieved higher than hers off the bat then dont, if this is day game dont, if u dont know dont.
The girls who can be negged you will know once you get used to it. They are high percieved value usually during nite game. High value girls are way more fun anyways bc it is about game, the lower the value the less typical game works and the less confidence they have to chase you.
If you can neg make sure your frame(body language, facial expression, tonality) is right for the situation and her value of herself. Too strong for her value and its insulting, too weak for her value and she may blow u out

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I used to neg too but it didn't work for me because the girls got insulted all the time.

Instead, tease her and use disqualifiers and push&pull techniques.

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My point was, SKIP the negs completely. If you absolutely have to "lower her bitch shield" or whatever, try disqualifying playfully instead.

"You and I would never make a good couple..." - Mystery (I think).

Much safer and works better. Been doing that naturally since I was born.