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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:59 am 
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In college I have made many friends but there is one I am starting to become attracted to. She is not insanely hot but she is cute. What really makes me attracted to her is her personality. She is nice, fun, caring, and she loves nerdy things like video games. She is in my social group and believe it or not, she is technically my first female friend. She gave me her number and she definitely considers me a friend. I do talk with her whenever I can and did a bit of kino today (hand on shoulder which is the easiest one to pull off) and she reacted positively to it. I also do a lot of eye contact when talking to her. I make sure to look straight into her eyes. She also teases me sometimes and its really funny. She does not do that to other people unless they are asking for it so that could be a small positive sign. My only problem is another guy in my social group who is the most dominant. According to all the pickup theories, he is completely alpha and attractive. He is loud, has pre selection (although sometimes with not great looking girls) and is very touchy feely and constantly teases her. He keeps touching her in harmless ways. I don't know whether he likes her or he just treats every girl that way (which so far it doesn't seem that way).

I think my problem is that I need more kino and she has to see me in a sexual way. I also gotta get louder as I can be really quiet. Also this alpha guy lives on her floor while I live in the building next door. It is killing me since sometimes those two disappear from the group of friends and I get paranoid but both times it was a false call. He apparently also tried to kiss her during orientation but she got creeped out and said no. That is what I think I heard and if so that is a good sign. I know girls in situations like that where a guy goes all out and the girl plays along but does not like him but that could mean nothing. I gotta somehow get her to like me as more than a friend. I think she is fully capable of becoming attracted to me. I also have to find out if the alpha in the group is really pursuing her. How do I handle this situation? I would love to just walk away but I really like this group of friends but it kills me to see those two being near each other. How do I handle this situation? I don't know how much time I have left, it could be a few months or a couple weeks. Thanks for reading this long post and let me know what I should do other than forget her. That is the typical response and I fully understand why it is but just pretend that choice does not exist. I know from experience oneitis is unhealthy but this time it is a girl that I might be able to get with. Other times it was celebrities or mean girls in my school. I am also uncomfortable with going direct because I have had bad experience with that. Let me know how I should handle this and what I can do to make her see me in a sexual way and how I can have deeper conversations with her either online or in person and how I can become a more dominant member of my social group which is still growing.


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Also I just looked this up and for those familiar with Vin Di Carlo's Pandora's Box system, she is easily a "your private dancer" so if you know what that means, take that lightly into consideration.


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Ok I really need help with this one. I got so worked up over her after writing this post that when I saw her at breakfast this morning, I got super nervous. I was not making eye contact and was studdering. She could definitely tell I was nervous and could sense something was up but she said "see you later" which I think dictates that she wants to see me again. I think I just need to relax more. Any ideas on how I can attract her, become more dominant in my social group and make her feel relaxed around me, enough to get into a one on one situation?


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Ok I really need help with this one. I got so worked up over her after writing this post that when I saw her at breakfast this morning, I got super nervous. I was not making eye contact and was studdering. She could definitely tell I was nervous and could sense something was up but she said "see you later" which I think dictates that she wants to see me again. I think I just need to relax more. Any ideas on how I can attract her, become more dominant in my social group and make her feel relaxed around me, enough to get into a one on one situation?
If you get here in 1 on 1 situation, she has some form of attraction to you.

Build attraction by being cool, not needy, and fun!

Don't over think things, be yourself, let her appreciate that!

Take the lead when you feel you can, try to ease your nerves by thinking "fuck it, what have I got to lose".

Remember , you should be the prize, let her want to start working for you, maybe use push and pull, show some likeness and attraction for her, then keep distance for a day or 2, be unpredictable, defo think your over thinking man!

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Chelios has some great advice, I would definitely listen to him.
And for future reference, don't put so much emphasis and value on one girl...this mindset will throw your game way off.

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Chelios has some great advice, I would definitely listen to him.
And for future reference, don't put so much emphasis and value on one girl...this mindset will throw your game way off.
Thanks Sin ;) We're all in it for the same thing really (a better life) so just sharing my piece, hope he listens, sometimes harder than actually listening though right.

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Chelios has some great advice, I would definitely listen to him.
And for future reference, don't put so much emphasis and value on one girl...this mindset will throw your game way off.
Thanks Sin ;) We're all in it for the same thing really (a better life) so just sharing my piece, hope he listens, sometimes harder than actually listening though right.
Yes indeed. What's the old saying...'easier said than done'? But, it all comes down to how bad you want to become an Alpha. There is some great advice on here. I hope everyone takes advantage of it.

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Chelios has some great advice, I would definitely listen to him.
And for future reference, don't put so much emphasis and value on one girl...this mindset will throw your game way off.
Thanks Sin ;) We're all in it for the same thing really (a better life) so just sharing my piece, hope he listens, sometimes harder than actually listening though right.
Yes indeed. What's the old saying...'easier said than done'? But, it all comes down to how bad you want to become an Alpha. There is some great advice on here. I hope everyone takes advantage of it.
I agree, in my opinion (from someone that has had oneitis, about a year ago) who has now moved on, developed parts of my life and still in development, and back in a relationship (being the dominant not needy figure), most things are easier said than done, so we have to go out and do it, actions speak louder than words.

I also believe that people focus on becoming Alpha in PU, we should try and become Alpha men in general, being a leader, someone good, respected in good ways for who we are and what we do, and it'll develop every segment of our lives.

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Chelios has some great advice, I would definitely listen to him.
And for future reference, don't put so much emphasis and value on one girl...this mindset will throw your game way off.
Thanks Sin ;) We're all in it for the same thing really (a better life) so just sharing my piece, hope he listens, sometimes harder than actually listening though right.
Yes indeed. What's the old saying...'easier said than done'? But, it all comes down to how bad you want to become an Alpha. There is some great advice on here. I hope everyone takes advantage of it.
Is that really you Sin as in the Jon Sin?? If so then HI! I'm a fan of your work and honored that you replied to me. I seriously took the advice Chelios gave me to heart and had an amazing day. I don't know if there was that much progress but she definitely likes me now more than yesterday (don't know if in a sexual way but getting there hopefully). I was definitely more talkative and had a lot of fun today. I think she is a very kinesthetic person in general but she did a lot of shoulder touches and a few high fives. According to Pandora's Box, those kinds of touches for her work effectively. I think she really might be the textbook example of a "your private dancer". The alpha dude was actually not as near her today so I don't think he is pursuing her. Thanks so much for the advice Chelios. It made a huge difference today and hopefully even more so tomorrow.


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Thanks Sin ;) We're all in it for the same thing really (a better life) so just sharing my piece, hope he listens, sometimes harder than actually listening though right.
Yes indeed. What's the old saying...'easier said than done'? But, it all comes down to how bad you want to become an Alpha. There is some great advice on here. I hope everyone takes advantage of it.
Is that really you Sin as in the Jon Sin?? If so then HI! I'm a fan of your work and honored that you replied to me. I seriously took the advice Chelios gave me to heart and had an amazing day. I don't know if there was that much progress but she definitely likes me now more than yesterday (don't know if in a sexual way but getting there hopefully). I was definitely more talkative and had a lot of fun today. I think she is a very kinesthetic person in general but she did a lot of shoulder touches and a few high fives. According to Pandora's Box, those kinds of touches for her work effectively. I think she really might be the textbook example of a "your private dancer". The alpha dude was actually not as near her today so I don't think he is pursuing her. Thanks so much for the advice Chelios. It made a huge difference today and hopefully even more so tomorrow.
Keep it up, while developing your game and inner-self, take not of Alphas around you and her, see how you said he wasn't as near her today, that's what adds to her liking him, if that makes sense, because he isn't always around giving her 100%.

Keep your head up, targets set, and get to where you want to be!

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Shit maybe ur right but I think another guy in the group may even be beating him out. He is also sort of loud but he is funny and creative. She gives this guy A LOT of kino, nothing serious but more than anyone else. He also does the same but I think she may see this guy as just a friend. He really is not showing a sexual or romantic side. He is just being himself. I don't know what this girl thinks of me now. She says I am very polite. Not nice but polite (I hope there is a difference). I don't want to doubt myself but I seriously am lost a bit. What can I say to make her see a serious romantic side of me while around others? It seems hard to get to her alone.


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Shit maybe ur right but I think another guy in the group may even be beating him out. He is also sort of loud but he is funny and creative. She gives this guy A LOT of kino, nothing serious but more than anyone else. He also does the same but I think she may see this guy as just a friend. He really is not showing a sexual or romantic side. He is just being himself. I don't know what this girl thinks of me now. She says I am very polite. Not nice but polite (I hope there is a difference). I don't want to doubt myself but I seriously am lost a bit. What can I say to make her see a serious romantic side of me while around others? It seems hard to get to her alone.
Trick is, you don't really want to do that, not yet, she'll see you as an AFC probably.

You ant to DHV yourself, but in-directly.

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I don't think you should try to be alpha in this situation since she already knows you it might come off try-hard. What kind of girl is she? Do you know if she is/has hooked up with other guys recently or is she guarding the temple. The reason I ask is I think your ok if its the latter because your the kind of personality she might go for that is safe/someone who won't hurt her. If its the first option we will stratigise. Also are you guys old enough to drink?
What has worked well for me is something like offering her a piggy-back(works even better if you are wearing Cologne) or playfully wrestle with her. Also if you want to be more alpha start bulking up at the gym, my opinion is size builds confidence. Good luck


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I don't think you should try to be alpha in this situation since she already knows you it might come off try-hard. What kind of girl is she? Do you know if she is/has hooked up with other guys recently or is she guarding the temple. The reason I ask is I think your ok if its the latter because your the kind of personality she might go for that is safe/someone who won't hurt her. If its the first option we will stratigise. Also are you guys old enough to drink?
What has worked well for me is something like offering her a piggy-back(works even better if you are wearing Cologne) or playfully wrestle with her. Also if you want to be more alpha start bulking up at the gym, my opinion is size builds confidence. Good luck
According to Vin Di Carlo's Pandora's Box system, she shows signs that it is definitely the later. I also believe it too. She definitely does see herself as a sexual person therefore sexual tension would be ineffective. I would be someone that she would feel safe with and maybe your right. Being alpha might not get her anywhere. I can be quiet many times with my social group but last night I really made her and everyone else laugh really hard and we all have fun together. I also make my friends laugh by eating just about anything they make for me (some weird food combos but I have fun with it.) I will see what I can do. I just hope when she calls me polite she is not calling me a nice guy. I think it is just polite.


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I don't think you should try to be alpha in this situation since she already knows you it might come off try-hard. What kind of girl is she? Do you know if she is/has hooked up with other guys recently or is she guarding the temple. The reason I ask is I think your ok if its the latter because your the kind of personality she might go for that is safe/someone who won't hurt her. If its the first option we will stratigise. Also are you guys old enough to drink?
What has worked well for me is something like offering her a piggy-back(works even better if you are wearing Cologne) or playfully wrestle with her. Also if you want to be more alpha start bulking up at the gym, my opinion is size builds confidence. Good luck
Wow. Forgot to add some info. We are underage and we all do not drink (at least I think that's true). The gym here is kind of expensive so I gotta think of other ways to build confidence. My biggest weakness is conversation as I get really shy and I am pretty bad at it.


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