I’m doing a bit of online dating, (keeping all options open.) This is where iv been trying out the guides iv been reading as well. This is where the convo is at so far.

ME
Pretty but no brains.
Her
No brains. Not pretty. Clearly a girl and a deviant.
Me
I would take the piss out of your height, but im not that .... small minded.
I notice you use hair extensions, I was running my fingers though a girls her in a club who was a bit like you, you know, fake!
The fuckers came out in my hands, I thought she had cancer!
Thats what happens when you play with dolls, they start to fall apart!
Her - no reply
Me
oh, you didnt bite, you are boring, I thought you were actually gonna be a really good laugh!. how wrong was I.
Her
I'm sorry but your boring me now. Your really not as funny or smart as you think you are.
Why are you on this site, just to abuse people? Aww does that make you feel better about yourself? How sad.
ME
Im not boring you, I will prove it, don’t read anything after this line!
Your still reading -), and I bet you have a little smirk on your face to! (like the one in one of your pics.)
Now your thinking, wanker! Lol
Lets just say, for giggles, I sent you an email saying, OH, I THINK YOU SO PRETTY, CAN I HAVE YOU NUMBER. I don’t even think you would have got to number, before you hit the delete button.
Am I wrong ?
Her
Oh yeah i would really give my number to a weirdo like you. And your still boring me, as hard as you try to be funny interesting your really not.
Me
I didn’t ask for your number! don’t twist my words, I simply stated what most crazy fools would write.

I dont want it. im sure i told you that im gay, and i have a girlfriend. plus i have to vet anyone that comes near me because i have a fantastic little boy who is, at the moment, my world.
anyway, your now boring me. you seem to issues. i understand.
Her
I seem to issues ? errr yeah okay then. And your gay, with a girlfriend? Yet somehow i'm the fake one with no brain.
ME
your not shy! its says on ur profile you are. load of rubbish.
you have a quick wit and can't be fooled. why did you put that?
dont make sense.

HER
Erm excuse me but you don't actually know me! For your information i am shy.

ME
true, I don't. have you heard of a game called, the cube?

Her
No, why?

ME
Ok… the cube is a game that allows me to ask you a set of questions, and when I'm done I'll know everything about you. Do you have a good imagination?
Her
Yea i do.
ME
ok you will have to close ur eyes when you do this.

Imagine you are front of you a landscape. And in the landscape there is a cube. Notice what size it is, what colour it is? What it is made of and Where is it? (i.e on the ground or floating)

Then tell me what you see.

Her
This is weird..
ME
all you got to do is picture a cube, haha. im sure you have done much much much strange stuff in your life.

my mum use to belive in horoscopes, palm-reading and stuff.

im guessing your murch more level-headed

Her
ok fine. The cube is green, and small. And that means...?
ME
ok, is it on the ground or floating?
Her
erm, floating.
ME
really, interesting. one last question. can you see through the cube, or is it solid.
Her
solid.
ME
ok the cube is floating so you a bit of a dreamer, you can picture where you want to be in life.
its small, sometimes you feel ignored by those cloest to you.
like they dont listen?
the cube is solid, so you have a well-grounded personality
colour is green, normally means you like new items, fresh, clean, rather stay in a hotel then go camping.

how am i doing?
Her
Sounds weirdly like me.
Me
haha, ur funny, its not a sicence is it. I take it your a single mum then?
Her
Yeah i am. How olds your little boy?
Me
Hes a big 6, I get him once every two weeks from fri to sunday.
He was round here recently and we were building Lego men together, he loved it. I took him to disney is paris and he dressed up as peter pan, he looked fantastic! all the little girls were going - peter pan! in there french accent. then they tried to talk to him in french. didnt get very far. lol.
u still getting sleepless nights?
Her
Aww bless him. Whats his name ? Yep, i'm so tierd all the time.
Me
leyton, whats ur sons name? does he still see his dad?
Her
Daniel. Yea he has him for 3 hours on a tuesday evening. Its not much but better than nothing i guess.
Me
when do u start your course in beauty therapy. i did Reflexology and full body massages at college.
Her
In january. Did u enjoy it

Me - RIGHT GUYS, YOU INPUT HERE WILL BE GREAT, i will be email her tomorrow, still not swapped numbers yet or emails. its all through this site.

i dont really know how u pulled these negs online. they are very harsh man. i think wat u should do next is be a charmer for a while , then neg some more, then go for it

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beegy

no i have no idea how she is still speaking to you, good work. u obviously have some comfort but she is still on edge, show the nice/serious side of you.

i also liked how she got talking about your little boy. shows a real human being rather than some random dude off the internet.

i would personaly go straight for the date not a number. try and set up a daytime playdate for the kids type of thing.

also i would take beegy's advice but be playful not so harsh

Thanks for your imput lads.

I was reading back through it and you will notice that non of it directly refers to her, its more general to “pretty girls” and its all said in a comical way. When she wrote “ your not as funny or smart as you think you are.” I new, she understood that I was just teasing and she was just testing me because, her replying shows interest! She could have just blocked me on the site. I think i also presented a challenge. Anyway my reply that I’m going to send tomorrow is below. Let me know your thoughts!

Hey hun
I was rushed of my feet last night, I had to go and look after my mates husky’s as he won’t let anyone else. They are AMAZING dogs.
I have a confession to make, when I looked at ur profile yesterday I was impressed! Your profile is short, but the general impression I got was that your a mum that wants to do well, make something of her life but LIVE it at the same time. Its so refreshing to see that because of the amount of girls that just can’t be bothered or lose the desire.
While looking at ur pictures, apart from having to put my screen on its side so I can see the close up of your image correctly! I was trying to figure out what it was that caught my eye. It hit me that you have a killer combination of a smile that lights up the whole room as you enter and eyes that you can get lost in. I bet you make some men weak at the knees
Anyway the course was really good, but as I didn’t finish I’m going to redo sometime next year. Its great when your the “test dummy”. Takes away any stress from your body.
Where abouts in London are you?

i believe it good, but u eaither put a couple of simple negs or lessen the compliments it will be perfect.

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beegy

just got her number! haha getttttttttin. shes sexy! and so the game begins.

Iv met 3 girls from these sites and iv been going clubbing to and doing well. its all sort of feel into place recently, the penny dropped if you will!

You managed to swing that one around pretty well, so I guess well done?

But

Remember that a neg is a backhanded compliment, not an insult, and
You only need about 3 negs for a stunning 10, that's it.

Also remember that negging is generally used in indirect club game where you're trying to (i) disqualify yourself, and (ii) lower her perceived value whilst raising yours so that they're roughly equal.

Online, on a dating site, there is no need to be indirect because it's very clear what everyone's intentions are and there is no social proof in like there is in a real life situation.

In this context, the best way is to be direct, and move more quickly to the qualification stage where you are finding out things about her that you value, and complimenting her on those. You can still play push-pull, and throw in some negs or disqualifiers, but you needn't go nearly as much as you would in a club, or nearly as much as you did then.

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convo now on text! this is the second day of texting. all going well mind!

Me: How about we meet at a london station, i can show you my train spootting skills, lol. x

Her: wow, sounds exciting....

Me: haha, i cant tell you becuase that would ruin the surprise, i promise you will love it.

Me: I'm hoping you will be able to impress me enough to want to go on a second date with you. If you want ill give you a call later to chat. it wont be a long one as im off out, be nice to hear your voice.

Her: (two hours later! when shes online and knoticed that im back on the dating site!)

how do you know you have impressed me enough to even wanna go on a date with you

Me: haha we are so alike its bad, neither of us will back down. bollox to you then, dont come out on a date. hit the delete button!

her: wouldnt wanner go out on a date with someone that gives up that easily anyway!

Me: not a date, that would be to long, i was thinking more along the lines of me waving as you went past on the train, hi, byyyyyyyyyye.

Me: your eyes in your pics are amazing, how about we start off with a phone call, iv got my son this weekend so even if we did decide to meet it wouldn't be right away, ok tich, the convo will be a quick one, dont want u to have to think to much do we!.


NOTHING BACK as yet. still it is late so i might have to wait till tomorow?

If these are the only interactions you've had with her, she's unlikely to want to meet yet. You're playing the shit test game, but you haven't move past that to qualification, which you need to do a little bit of before asking to meet. This is because right now, even if she likes you and is interested, you haven't shown any reason, other than what she looks like, WHY you want to meet her. The obvious conclusion is that you're just after sex and therefore she's still playing games with you. The solution is to start asking a few interesting questions about her passions, future goals, past successes and failures, and giving her honest compliments about those aspects that you actually find attractive and positive qualities (followed of course by a little IOD to break the tension). If words fail you run the cube or some cold reads just so you she can legitimately say in her head "this guy knows and values something about me and my personality" and she's made some kind of emotional investment in your interaction. Only then is she likely to agree to meet you in person, at which point have a good day 2 planned (during the week is best).

A good day 2 is one where in which you have, ideally, 3 locations planned. You should invite her to only 1, which should be the most interesting and unique of the lot, for example a gin distillery bar, mini golf, a dessert cafe, a wine tasting, etc.
The first location should be a good place to build comfort. It can be a high energy venue with a lot of stuff going on, but there should at least be tables where you can sit together and have a proper conversation (so meeting at a club is a bad idea). The second venue should be high energy and give the opportunity for kino escalation and a k-close if possible. This could be a bar that has live music, or a games arcade for example. The third venue should be as close to your house as possible and, if the other two haven't should definitely serve alcohol (not to get her totally plastered to take advantage of her, but to help her loosen up a bit). This should be lower energy and have the ability for more comfort building and escalation, e.g. a chilled out bar/lounge with comfy sofas. Ideally it's good to scout your favourite places and try to know a few people that work there. That way you get a bit of social proof just walking in there, which helps spike attraction levels early and makes your job easier.

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Wow, great post, I will def use that for future use! I text her once more this afternoon simple saying, "wow, now i do feel like im married, the silent SPAM already! have you changed the locks and put my clothes on ebay yet!. I gave her 1 hour to reply then deleted her number.

I will use this as a good reference. iv got a few numbers now and i see 100% whats going wrong!

Really good advice, dont know why i didnt see it the first time round.

Thanks again.