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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:21 pm 
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I live in a small town of under 35,000 people and I'm just having a problem of gaming the same girl twice or making enemies in my neighbourhood
In the LS newbie mission it says to approach about 60 sets
I have not started gaming yet
im 18 and do not have a car yet (test is next month).

I probably need to start sarging alone as my friends dont go out often do you guys think I should wait to start sarging when my friends are next out (10 days time) and learn some routines or just go out night gaming asap and experience AA and be completely out of my comfort level instead of going slowly into it


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:04 am 
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I live in a small town of under 35,000 people and I'm just having a problem of gaming the same girl twice or making enemies in my neighbourhood
In the LS newbie mission it says to approach about 60 sets
I have not started gaming yet
im 18 and do not have a car yet (test is next month).
Hi mate, I live in a small town too so what I usually do is catch the train to a nearby town and do my approaches there (day game) but I suppose you could also do the same for night game.

What do you wish to work on the most, day/night or both? Also are you from the UK?
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I probably need to start sarging alone as my friends dont go out often do you guys think I should wait to start sarging when my friends are next out (10 days time) and learn some routines or just go out night gaming asap and experience AA and be completely out of my comfort level instead of going slowly into it
This applies to both day/night game:

Everyone has different levels of anxiety and going out on your own is tough but if you can do it on your own, when you go out with your friends/wing, approaching will be so much easier!

For night game:

If you do try going out on your own, don't worry too much about pickup, (if it happens it happens) but just try to be social and enjoy yourself. Before you get to your venue ask people for the time, where xyz is or whatever to warm up. In the queue, just make small talk with people and don't be afraid to make a bit of small talk or a little joke with the bouncer/doorman. They appreciate this because most guys usually see them as an annoyance instead of a friend.

Once you're inside, have a relaxed smile on your face and try to open the first person group or whoever you see, even if it's just to ask for the time. Make sure you speak loud too, really loud! It demonstrates confidence. After this you want to make sure that you don't get stale, just talk to anyone (guys, girls, groups of 2/3) and if you see a target that you'd like to open just do it. Situational openers are universal, for example you can open guys and girls by commenting how awesome the venue is, if they know any good places to eat afterwards, on something unique they might be wearing or whatever.

With guys you quickly want to start talking about sports/cars/chicks so they know that you're not gay lol. With chicks opinion openers work well but situational openers are good too. Just make sure you have something you can immediately transition with when using a situational opener. Lastly don't worry too much about being blown out, in most cases the worst thing that happens is you get ignored, no big deal. Everyone's too pissed to realize what’s going on around them anyway. As long as you talk loudly, look social and have good body language (don't lean in when talking to people), most people will respond well to you.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:18 am 
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ok cheers man yeah im from the UK the nearest towns via train is luton and bedford and next is milton keynes but would be more of journey. I want to do both night and day game, but want to start with night game, just the thought of drunk people seems slightly more inviting especially as they are out to be social, and what time would be best time to go out sarging 9:00? 10:00?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:22 pm 
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Depends, if you want to hit afew bars first and establish a group earlier I'd say 9, as come club time, if you wander into a club alone to try and find groups, I generally find people are less open and have more chance to ignore or escape you if they don't want you around.

Aslong as you come across confident and interesting people will want to listen. That's what I've learnt from meeting people in bars. The phrase "hey, do you mind if I join you guys for a drink, I seem to have lost my mates" or something similar like your mates are joining you in 20mins, it generally diffuses the situation as they initially think "ok this guy isn't going to be around all night" but by the time you get to know them and all have a laugh, they won't care if you stay or leave.

Also, pool can be a good ice breaker, especially at uni.


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I live in a small town of under 35,000 people and I'm just having a problem of gaming the same girl twice or making enemies in my neighbourhood
In the LS newbie mission it says to approach about 60 sets
I have not started gaming yet
im 18 and do not have a car yet (test is next month).

I probably need to start sarging alone as my friends dont go out often do you guys think I should wait to start sarging when my friends are next out (10 days time) and learn some routines or just go out night gaming asap and experience AA and be completely out of my comfort level instead of going slowly into it
You'll come to find that the the journey to PUA mastery is taken ALONE although you would want your friends around for support you really need to master YOUR style on your own time. I started pickup in January of 2010, I am 20 years old and as you can see from my profile I have approached 280+ women. I have not f-closed ANY of them and the best part about it is that I know why I haven't and knowing those things help you analyze your own game and makes your game better. I'm actually glad I didn't sleep with any of those women because no matter how HAWT a chick may be at the end of day you cannot trust these women at all. Out of the 280+ women I've interacted with I'm only still talking to maybe three of them. Basically I don't waste womens time and I do not let them waste mine. I still have a LONG way to go to meet my goal of 10,000 approachs but that is ok because I know I will make it. Now back to your friends, your friends will never be as good as a seducer as you if your constantly working on your craft. I remember back a couple months ago when I was going hardcore on approaches and getting really solid responses and always number closing to the point where rejection to me felt like drinking a Red Bull. That is the level you need to be on before you even THINK about bringing your friends into any sitaution you can get to this level with six months of solid approaches. After your at this level in your game invite your friends out and approach random hot chicks and have like 40 minute convos with them while your friends watch from afar. The feeling is just incredible! You will obtain an Alpha spot amongst your boys if you did not have it before. The problem is with showing you must also deliver and to f-close you REALLY need to be on your shit. As you can see I am still working on mine, p.s. I do not have a car either!

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