LJBF - Mixed Signals



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:58 am 
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Well, I guess I'll start with a little introduction to my situation. There's this HB10 (HB10 but definitely the FARTHEST girl from a slut, shes only had sex with 2 guys, with whom she had been dating for a substantial amount of time) that I made some pretty AFC moves with when I really first started talking to her about a year and a half ago. I have been LJBF'ed twice already in this year and a half, the last time being in around this past March, when I first started to read up on the whole PUA scene because I believe I got too cocky and tried making moves way too fast. Everything was going good and the night ended up with me and her sitting in my car holding hands (most kino I've had in a while with her) and talking for 20 minutes. I tried going in for a kiss when I told her I had to get going, but I didn't do it confidently. I kind of went in for the kiss fast and unexpected and right after we kissed (fourth time we've kissed in total) she immediately pulled back and told me that we're just friends.

(I'd also like to mention that my looks are not an issue, not to sound conceited or anything.)

After this happened, I noticed the same thing that happened the first time she LJBF'ed me. She started not to answer as much and I began to see her noticeably less. A month or so pass and everything goes pretty much back to normal. We ended up going to prom together and what not.

Meanwhile, I have been studying how to get out of the friend zone. I have been reading up on it for a couple months now, refreshing everything daily. I have gathered that I was not giving enough kino (barely any touching at all) and that I was there whenever she needed me. (If she called me, I'd always answer. I'd text her immediately back if she texted me. If she asked to hangout, I would cancel other plans to hangout with her. All AFC stuff.)

Now, I'm always constantly making her laugh, making fun of her in a flirty way, making my self less available, upping the kino, and showing a lot of confidence.

So, after I read about making myself less available, I basically disappeared from her life for about 3 weeks because I told her I had other plans. At around the 3 week period, she texted me saying her mom had invited the both of us to go over for dinner. (She lives with her dad and her mom lives an hour away from us. Her whole family loves me and I had met her mom at our high school graduation in June. Long story about what we talked about and why, not too important though.)

So, we made plans for the next Wednesday that she would pick me up at 5:30 and we would go to her mom's for dinner. The FIRST thing she said when I got in the car was "I've missed you so much!" And I just gave a kind of "aww" as a response and asked her what she's been up to. That night I must've heard that "I've missed you" a couple times. Well, we had a good night, planned out things we wanted to do that no one wants to do anymore because everyone is too concerned with going out, getting drunk and/or doing drugs. (Ice skating, going to the zoo, going to a theme park, skiing, etc) I talked to her mom that night too and she said to me that her daughter cares a lot about me. Anyways, as she dropped me off I heard the "I've missed you again." and I just told her to call me sometime.

Now, after that she called me a couple times where I was busy and I think we hungout maybe once or twice. I saw her out at the bar a few times (fake ids :twisted: ) and I've been upping the kino and I noticed everytime I would touch her, she would mirror me. I look her directly in the eye when we speak. I've been reading all the IOIs she's been giving me and I have been unable to see any IODs.

Here's where the mixed signs are...

This past Wednesday she told me her best friend was having a couple people over and I should go. We spent the majority of the night together. She was always paying attention to me and what I was doing. We were sitting really close the whole night, a lot of kino, etc. I had to go to the bathroom and she told me she would show me where it was. After I got out, we were talking about something for a little, a secret I trusted with her a while ago and she says "You're my best guy friend." After I heard that, it shocked me. I didn't know what to think anymore. Here, I had been getting all these signs that things looked like they were finally turning around. Later in the night I got into a bad mood because I got into a fight with my dad on the phone. (not in front of anyone) I was talking to her afterwards about how I couldn't wait to go to college and get out of my area to get away from everyone. She said "you're not even going to miss me?" in a sad voice, almost looking like she was tearing. I kind of didn't answer or whatever. A few minutes later I decided I was going to leave and I quickly said bye to everyone and she like followed me to my car and goes "You're not even going to give me a real goodbye? No hug or anything?" Again, she looked like her eyes were a little watery.

Next day comes, I asked her if she had my laptop charger and she said it was at her friends house that we were at the previous night and that she would come along for the ride to go grab it. We spent a couple hours at her best friends house (a pretty mutual friend for us) as her friend cooked us some food and we hungout in her pool for a little bit. She constantly refilled my drink, asked if I wanted more food, and got me everything I needed while we were at her friends house. (being overly polite) I noticed a lot of mirroring too. (When I would look in one direction, she would look in that direction. When I would move my hand somehow, she would move her hand the same way. Etc. I've been noticing this a lot the past couple times I've hungout with her) While we are at her friends house, I got a phone call from a girl. I made plans with the girl right in front of her and her and her friend were quiet the whole time I was on the phone. (They definitely could hear that there was a girls voice on the other end of the phone.) As soon as I got off the phone, not two seconds later the girl says to her friend guess who I'm talking to again? She named some kid and said what college he goes to and I played it off pretty good saying "Oh, that's a really good school! I have a friend who goes there."

She asked what I was doing that night and I told her I was going out to the bars around us. She told me thats what she was doing too so I asked if me and my two friends could get a ride and she said sure. I couldn't get into the bar the girl and her friend were going into, so we ended up going to another one and I told them which one. Halfway through the night, they ended up coming to the bar I was at. We talked a bit and she said to me "guess who I saw?" and she named some kid she used to talk to a while back and said that he wanted her back but she doesn't like him at all anymore. (This all happened this past thursday)

Ok, well the next day some stupid shit that doesn't really have to do anything happened so we weren't talking up until today when she asked to talk to me. (basically having to do with making plans...i know she would do the same thing even if she was dating someone for 3 years so its nothing personal, thats just her...theres a reason for it thats not her fault that its a long story that I don't really want to explain) She told me that she was really upset that we weren't talking, if it was anyone else she wouldn't care at all but its been really bothering her, and that she told her mom and her best friend about it and wanted her best friend to talk to me about it if she saw me. She said she was sorry and she really wanted to spend the day with me and that we will this next upcoming friday. (about her saying that if it were anyone else she wouldn't care at all, she also said that if shes not on talking terms with me it upsets her more then anything more then if shes not on talking terms with someone else, whereas she couldn't give a fuck if it were someone else)

Right before she drops me off, she goes "I care about you so much *slight pause* as a friend."

That's where I'm at now.

Please, any suggestions, help, comments, anything is appreciated. I would really like to know if I should go any further, if it looks like I have any hope/chance, and what I could do better.

Thanks.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:12 am 
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Hang out with other chicks too, girls that you have a more bf-gf relationship

So,

a/ If the HB just wants to be friends, she will be fine with this as a "friend" would want their male friends to be happy and have girlfriends.

or

b/ If she is playing you along a bit, it re-asserts that you are a handsome desirable guy.


It's an old solution but will work


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:16 am 
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Sounds like she's into you but she's scared of being hurt.

So treating you as a friend is a defense mechanism.

If you feel the same way about her, man up and make your move. You've got a shot.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:31 am 
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I do feel the same way about her and have for a very long time.

So you think her actions are more important than what she says about being friends?

I've read that when a girl mentions being friends, they mean it. (at least for now)

But in this case, her actions are different then those words which makes me confused.

I'm hanging out with her this Friday all day/night as a definite. (Since I'm leaving for college, which is only an hour away and she said shes going to come visit at least once a month if not more, the following week we wanted to spend a whole day together. I haven't told her what we're doing yet friday but I'm taking her to the zoo->dinner->night ice skating since the zoo & ice skating we're two things we both wanted to do)

You think there's enough signals to try and make a move Friday?

Thanks for the replies/feedback!


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I'd say you got nothing to lose. Just escalate and if she responds positively go from there. If she gives you some resistance, just take a step back, reescalate and try again.

If nothing happens, you're going to college! COLLEGE!


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