So I ran into this problem that I cant get outa my mind I met this model a while back through a group of friends.She is a single mother. We met at dinner but didnt talk very much. The thing about this group of friends is their about 5-6 yrs older than me. And almost everyone knows my age. But so back to what I was say this HB9 model has HSE. Everytime I ran into her she never talks to me. But I never let her see that I noticed. Just last night there was a party. She attended and there was a friend with me she knew, he usually plays the gentlemen pua approach, while im kinda mainstream pua. So we go to the party and most of us go to our lounge, the model is of socializing. So most of us are having drinks, then this HB8 model sits next to me with her friend and we chat it up. One of my friends comes by to whisper to me that there very slutty, and if I really want them then I should just tell them what car I drive. He wasnt even joking. I saw the HB9 coming towards us with a cigarette in her hand as she was walking towards us I was in the process of asking her for a cigarette while adding in a subconscious neg of calling her madame, when she just turned away and started talking to someone else.But after a while the HB9 model comes to our lounge and I was like "I saw your dance video, you were really stiff" she denied and I replied "show me" then she said some thing along the lines of "Its ok", I looked away for a moment then replied with, "you dont have to be self conscious around me". She just looked at me and said "your too young" then she just turned away and started talking to someone else. Then I just turned to the HB8 and her HB7 friend who were clearly interested but at that point I didnt even want that. Soon this other girl came around and her and me started dancing. While we were dancing the HB9 comes by us and tells her she's leaving, as she was saying bye to me I told her she should give me a dance on her way out ( another crash and burn and I realize it probably wasnt the best move), again she said "its ok".

Now after that, I studied up on HSE and she is the classic case. I understand why my friend had better rapport with her, but at the same time he is alot older than me too. This case looks nearly impossible, but thats why I want it so bad.

So if anyone has any advice, tips, or reading that can help me out than please. My strong points are I can entice, am different can DHV well, adapt to almost any situation, not affraid of rejection.

Hey , STOP...

Why do you think that if somebody do not talk with you have HSE?
Most of those arrogant people are actually LSE. I really have a doubt that a lonely mother, abusing alcohol have HSE ...


if somebody is being an asshole with you,this do not mean he have HSE, like if somebody is acting friendly this is not meaning they have LSE.


An HSE person do not act like that.


Now:
1. Try to act like a couple, he will think you are the girl's boy friend, if no just say "excuse us please for 5 minutes".
YOUR FAULT!


2. Everytime I ran into her she never talks to me. But I never let her see that I noticed
YOUR FAULT, AGAIN. Try to capture her attention.

3. . She just looked at me and said "your too young" then she just turned away and started talking to someone else.
NO YOU ARE NOT. She's to old for you.
This could act as a neg, telling a girl she's to young to old...
calling her "madame" i don't see it as a neg, it's more like asking some attention.


Try to not act with girls like you want a relation etc, try to show them at the frist that you just look for fun, otherwise they will say all kind of shits "i got a boy friend" "you to young" "you to old" , or even something like "you to smart for me"


But keep it going man, you not that bad

Thnx, I know what you mean.. but it might be a little harder than that. She has almost all the qualities of an HSE according to http://www.seductiontuition.com/david-s ... steem.html
shes just like one of those kinda exceptions, but in this case she sort of mentally disqualifies me in her own mind right from the start, without even giving me the chance to do anything. thats what i need to find an opening to make my own opportunity. But its not like normal cases where you give other people attention and she will react, and for another matter openers wont even grab her attention. These parties are usually filled with fashion people who for the most part know each other. I am fairly new with the group as ive only been with them like a week. She reacts only to gentlemen and then theres her guy friends, as far as I can tell while she was talking to my friend.

Well ... lonely mother ... she only respond to "gentlemen" ...


hmmm ... maybe she is searching for a penis with credit card

if you get what i mean.

But because she have a "guy with money" like a target this is not meaning she is HSE at all. I don't know her, never saw her but trust me... you don't want to be the gentlemen and this girls to target you.
Usually this lonely women that have kids to grow-up are searching for a looser with cash [sorry: stable men with good family roots, a nice job, nice car etc], and if you are not the stero-type they are searching for, you will have a hardtime..and if you are, you will have even a harder time. I don't know how to express myself, but 90% of them are looking for a slave or for somebody to rise-up their SE after their broken past relation,etc.