I would like to hear all the stories of ppl here who one day something happened and they had it with their AFC behavior and did something about it, namely learn PUA and end up here. Were u the geek? the 30 yo virgin? a break up? a girl you wanted? just sick of the sucess your friends were having and you werent?
This is like when ppl go to AA and say they figured out they had a problem and then found a place to change lol.

whats the story?

heres my little story. 2 yo ago this hb 9 and I have a short fling then she says she wants her ex back. no bd. well 6 months later they break up, and we just txt for 2 months(wow AFC) this is like every other day.
Talks get to deep she still not over bf. high self-disclosure convos after 2 months. 2-4 months high conneection almost lbjf but for some reason it isnt
after 4 months she isnt mentally stable(diagnosed depression among other things) anyways she says shes need to wait till she stable I say Ill wait(afc) so the next 2 months(4-6month mark), we set up meetups she flakes repeatedly says she sorry she needs to wait, she flakes on plans she makes, we hang out in groups a couple times, really no time to iso like I want. finally after 6month I say I need yes or no. She say no then goes off on a fling with a guy for 2 weeks. 2 weeks comes back says she dont know what she was thinkin then tries going back to putting me in this idk i need time thing.
here it gets bad I fite myself with wanting and knowing this shit is wrong for 2 months(6-8 month mark since broke up with bf). This is when I first get into PUA start gaming girls and game alrite just go afc with her still
After that next 4 months(our talks are in spurts every 2 weeks to a month lasting like a week and she still would flake leading to no talking for a while, then all over again month later.
after 12 months we have a big fight at a party, im kissing ass next week she wants nothing to do with me. month later she reininaties getting in my face about fucking some girl tell her to let us go our ways stay out of each others life.
no contact for 4 months, then we mend it but really no talking, she has bf now for couple months.
2 months later Im great now, at a party bf jsut broke up with her, I game her great energy, get her to play beer pong with me. I leave to get balls for 2 min, I come back all the energy is gone just negativity, we lose our game. start talking later go into past say we need to talk about this another time.
set up meet up in morning for 4pm that day(sunday) to talk about it we both have hangovers that morning and no phys contact that nite beyond things like claw, at like 3 I say I cant make it till 530, she says can I just do another day, I say alrite I say 7 tuesday, she say sounds good. Tuesday come around she says yah I really dont want to meet up with you srry I was drunk. I just say lol u coulda said that couple days ago. she say k. I say lol ur loss. obvious bs on her part but cant react to it, its afc lol
Here I am now prolly still a GPUA wouldnt say PUA yet but still an AFC when it comes to one girl, and wanting to here everyone elses story of why they are here

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i am replying to this because it's a good question and also because sometimes it's good to shame yourself in public lest you repeat your past missteps. i never agreed w/the term afc, but whatever it serves a purpose. i had elements of that shit going on (still do although i know i've improved).

Several years ago, i managed to meet a ravishing young girl. simply delicious. first date ends in wild sex for hours and hours. one week passes. second date, and debauchery, once again. in my mind, as she sleeps naked next to me, i am already saying to myself 'you have a new girlfriend'. fucking douche. in the morning, we are talking and she says she wants to be clear that she isn't looking for anything right now. i try to be suave and shrug it off, but of course I just have to slip in "i'd prefer to have you all to myself." this does not do well for her demeanor. nor did my telling her how beautiful she was. and taking her out for a $300 dinner at a posh wine bar was probably not a good idea either. seemed Money at the time.

Like a dutiful monkey, I drive her home on the way to my job. As we're driving, out of the blue she tells me she might be going on a trip, so she'll let me know about that 3rd date we had already planned... another nail in the coffin.

A week goes by. Needless to say our email banter had stopped. I decide to text once. Short response. I misinterpret, and think all is well. 2 weeks go by. My boys tell me try again. I do. I receive an email from her saying she's happy to get together as friends but she's with someone exclusively now. My my how quickly things change in the girl world.

I had never been so blindsided by a girl in my life. Sure - breakups happened but those made sense somehow. I felt there was something fundamental I did not understand about this situation, and therefore about girls. I realized I had relied a lot on luck and no skill. But what are those skills? What do you call this black art? There was something out there about girls that I just didn't get. In my 26 years, I had managed never to hear about 'game', 'seduction' or the 'rules of attraction'. I was lucky enough to find it all by accident at a dark time in my life.

thats shitty man. so u figured out what u did wrong? or to me it just seems like you were a fb to her then. shooda raised the interest and not said that shit. its alrite though shit happens

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yup. should have embraced the fb status instead of going for the 'gold' whatever that was. never let them see you sweat. never share really intimate shit with them until you're far along - it's poison. and i should have backed off and walked away. she would have come a runnin.

QFT man qft, that shit is dangerous. plus u lose the mystery and they lose the want to chase

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I got here because I was what you guys might call a super AFC

Four years ago I saw a girl I thought was the girl of my dreams. She was beautiful and innocent. Man was I stupid
Anyway I spent 6 months working up the courage to talk to this girl . Sigh so much of my life wasted. I convinced myself that I was in love with her before I spoke to her... and I pretty much screwed up ever since then. I did everything an AFC would do and ended up in the LJBF zone. In defense of my AFC self the girl did screw with me and not in the good way . She would look for me in our classes and hug me, she'd tell me she missed me when I didn't make it somewhere and I eat all that shit up.
She eventually hooked up with one of my best friends. Man that was one of the hardest things I ever had to deal with. It sounds stupid but in my head it was reality. I remember crying myself to sleep many many times...

Two years ago I stumbled upon the game. I read it and thought this is major bullshit . But I decided I needed to take control of my life. I started pushing myself out of my comfort zone in every possible way. I acted in plays, I performed music and comedy pieces for hundreds and killed , and I decided to become a doctor. It would be the greatest challenge of my life. I was always a follower and a pussy. Now I have to be a leader.

One year ago I started applying game to my life. I've grown tremendously. I'm still feeling out things as I haven't had as much time to practice as I'd like (I hate med school ) but I'm getting there. People from my past tell me I've changed. An old girlfriend wanted to leave her boyfriend to get back with me, and she lives in another country now . And this girl I "loved" is a friend and I know that if I ever wanted her now, she'd be mine in an instant.
Man I love life. Thank you to the pick up society. I truly owe you big time

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I dont really feel like typing out the whole history of my AFC days and how I figured out I needed to change, but it's rare for someone to realize the EXACT moment that they stumbled onto a life changing experience and I remember it clear as day and hell, maybe for the rest of my life. I was fed up with how I was acting ad losing all these opportunities and I went on my computer, pulled up google and typed this magical little saying,

- Nice Guys Finish Last

I knew it was the truth but I wanted to know the mechanics, how it worked, and everything I could learn. The snowball effect was monstrous and it all started with that little google search.