So I hung out with this girl yesterday, and her body language would suggest she was interested in me. but when I tried to keno, she wasnt very receptive.

How can I tell when a girl is just being freindly or is naturaly flirty vs actual interest.

Ive probably already blew it with this girl. 6 hour hang-out, 4 of wich were in my room, and 2 of those we were in my bed. So the comfort is definatly there. But I think I accedentaly skipped over A2 (again).

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17 Year old AFC.
Don't bother trying to convince a woman, argue with her, or
otherwise engage her on a logical level, - Mystery

There is no definite way to tell them apart really. The only way to know the difference is from experience really. As trying to explain the difference on a forum is worthless really.

boo. So all Im missing is experience now.

I better go out and get some

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17 Year old AFC.
Don't bother trying to convince a woman, argue with her, or
otherwise engage her on a logical level, - Mystery

I like your thinking, good luck

Sounds like you need confidence.

Hug/cuddle, kiss, touch, touch up her legs, up her waist, along her underwear line, and just take off her top or pants ect. Just go for it!

Theres nothing to loose, she was in your bed for a reason!

Ouija

You want physical compliance.



With the touching issue, and her rejecting it or whatever.

You'll have to gradually reduce distance between you, and i imagine start really low down and small with the touching.


Erm, had a chick like this once, and wernt sure how to handle it... the route i took then was... extremeeeeeeeeeee over the top highly suggestive flirting (which she played along with too), then making it become a case of daring/qualification...

'but doubt you could actually handle me', then her wanting to prove it, I pushed further, 'yah, the thing is, I actually would, but I know you wouldn't.'

It kinda like, sexual confidence qualification.

It worked. But by then the verbal escalation couldn't have gotten much higher, though physical was very blocked for the most part.



Hope you can find use in this.

Love

~Finesse

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Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

Thanks guys.

Do you think becuase Im over the 7 hour mark plus we didnt do anything that Im now freind zoned?

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17 Year old AFC.
Don't bother trying to convince a woman, argue with her, or
otherwise engage her on a logical level, - Mystery

I Tried a physical compliance test, the thumb war trick. "Lemme see your hand for a sec" " ONE TWO THREE FOUR I DECLARE A THUMB WAR".

She was cool with that.

And she was cool with being closer to me. Didnt back off any when my leg "Accedentaly" touched hers.

Fuck, those are probably all good indications. FUUUUUUUUUUCKK. Sitting on my bed... she wanted me to put my arm around her DAMNIT.

Damn her and her hotness. Damn my blindness.

Damnit.

Ill rememeber that for next time.

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17 Year old AFC.
Don't bother trying to convince a woman, argue with her, or
otherwise engage her on a logical level, - Mystery

umm wtf, less your bed is also your couch this should be pretty much game over. shes not on your bed to talk for 2 hours.

shit if she rejected u on your own bed at least do a freeze out minimum. I dont see how this gets any easier wtf

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I know I know I know. And Im sorry and ashamed I should be able to capitlise on that. SHOULD. But this is why I got into the game. Not becuase Im already good. I have been studing this stuff for about 1 month, maybe opend 4 sets. Only have had one girlfreind, and im 17.

So yeah, I suck. But I already know it.

Next time a girl is in my bed, what should I do? Like how do I start the... you know (We were watching a movie by the way).

I dont think I established attraction or kino'd enough. Or did I and just didnt see it (Lack of experience?)

What do you guys think?

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17 Year old AFC.
Don't bother trying to convince a woman, argue with her, or
otherwise engage her on a logical level, - Mystery

Hey, I'm new to PU too, here's what works for me:

When you are talking, sit close and get some good eye contact going. After this continues for a while, go for the triangular gazing and slowly move in for a kiss close.

After you have kissed on and off while the conversation is going, softly move her chin up and gently kiss her neck. Pause, come back to eye contact and smile just a little bit, and kiss her neck again...while you are doing this, at some point, you will feel her breathing change...

Things will probably just flow naturally from there...good luck!

Thanks bro. You see ive basicly never done that before. ( And I say basicly becuase it wouldnt have been my first time) But Ive never actualy initiated anything. Guess I better get kamphy being a man eh?

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17 Year old AFC.
Don't bother trying to convince a woman, argue with her, or
otherwise engage her on a logical level, - Mystery

You got her comfortable already, and seems like she already likes you.

She won't make the move...so just relax, and when you feel comfortable, go in for the kiss...then escalate...

fuck going for a kiss. Just bite her ear she'll love that.

nah Im jk listen to everyone else triang gaze, get close.
put ur arm around her bring her close, then go for it,
if u need some line just be talking to her quietly during the movie and say idk who made this kiss setup but props
are u spotaneuous? she'll say yes
are u adeventurious? she'll say yes
give me a kiss. she shood. actually I cant remember the exact kiss line but the spontan and advent get her saying yes' so any line asking or telling her to give u/let u give her shood walk.
also u shood be kinoing at this time, if u have ur arm around her, rub her or grab her hand anything

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Shit, you sure? I guess im going to have to go for it.

You gotta break raport sometime right?

Alright, the last time we talked was two days ago. What should I do to initiate another hang-out?

Also, you guys dont think im freind-zoned?

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17 Year old AFC.
Don't bother trying to convince a woman, argue with her, or
otherwise engage her on a logical level, - Mystery