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I'm not positive where I stand game-wise.. I think I'm good just not taking risks cuz of little complexes BUT I do see myself doing things really well, my sense of humour is real good.. My confidence is good & I can take the lead n be dominant when need be.. N sometimes the confidence n sense of humor can even put me on the dominant side in a first impression kinda situation.. I can make girls get all introverted n giggly lol so I guess that's good... Problem is I'm really moving past a real social phobia problem n now that i'm past fear of like.. Rejection and ice breaking I'm terrified of groups of people like in a club setting. I nevvvverrrrr go to any clubs or parties...n that hinders me from really bein social enough to make any real moves... I know I need to get over this, but I guess I'm just lookin for a pep talk. N I'm also a lil confused about where my games at cuz.. I seem to have good qualities.. But I ultimately flop at sealing the deal cuz I'm in hermit mode right Now.

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using social engineering (more or less what game is) to pick up girls and have all the sex you want is cool... But is it possible to use game for other social things? For example I want to pursue music n networking is incredibly important in this field.. Would u think it was plausable to use the same theories n principles on networkingbin this feild to advance yourself?[/list]

1) Read the 50th law of power by Robert Greene.

2) Yes, the principles in that book aren't specific to girls nor are they anything new. If you do some research you can learn about the science behind all the stuff in The Game or other similar books and you'll see that it stretches way beyond just picking up girls. A lot of the reasons why girls and guys act the way they do has to do with Evolution / Social Darwinism.

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I read the 48 laws of power.

Wasent the 50th law the one he did w. 50 cent?

N tbh I'm not a fan of the 48 laws.

Their manipulative n i belive that manipulation leads to weak "inner game" i guess u would call it.

I want to gain enough confidence that the charsma I gain as a result will take the place of manipulation.. U know?

I deff see where ur coming from though.

I think learning the game can definitely benefit us in many parts of our lives.

It helps us understand people better, and because of this allows us to feel more confident because we know what we are doing and why people are responding or acting the way they do.

It is like going on to the badminton or tennis court and knowing what kind of shots to do and how the shots will be returned. The game allows you to feel in control is what I am saying. The mindset the game provides is powerful.

And this builds charisma because you appear confident to other people.

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"If something is important enough to you, you won't give up"

Bro!

If I wasn't still banned from the 'chat' feature of this site, I would tell you to meet me there as I have so much advice I could give you relevant to what it is I see you need!


If I was to write you a response here, I feel it would end up wayyy too long, as I have a lot to say. But don't worry, there will certainly be some value for you in this response...


Firstly, I too am persuing my dreams in music, so I can really understand the importance and your desire for skills in networking! In relation to your question can 'game' be used for social stuff - yes it can! However, most 'game' stuff is a bit(very) weird, and you don't want people thinking you're 'weird' now do you?


I would highhhly recommend you checking out this guy and getting your hands on his conversation e-book... http://www.yourcharismacoach.com/

Amongst other things, this book will help(lots) with...

- Getting over your fear of rejection/ (how to never get rejected again)
- Never having a 'bad' conversation again
- How to 'break the ice' smoothly

^I listed only these three things, as they seem to be your three biggest worries/things restricting you. But this book will teach you so many useful tips on how to become a conversational master... and best of all... it's FREE!!!

I can only say I wish someone had shown me this book before I started 'gaming'.

Right, before I sound like a bad marketing campaign, I'll leave you with that. It's your choice what you do with it, I only hope it helps you as much as it has helped me.

Love

~Finesse

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Munroe: "I kinoed the hell out of that goat"
Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

Thx Finesse, I am looking for ebooks like this too for a while. I am glad I started getting into this PUA stuff. It has opened so many doors for me.

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"There is always a solution to even the hardest problem in life."

"If something is important enough to you, you won't give up"

hhmmmmmmm does anyone think its plausible to use game to attract a following? and make people become fans, or even BUY music from you?

No offence, but think more critically man. The world revolves around communication. If you're able to improve your communication which is undoubtedly part of the package of learning Pick UP, this stuff will help you achieve almost anything in life if you put your mind to it.

Understanding people is so crucial. so yeah learn that. apply it to people who you want to become your music fans.

cheers

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"There is always a solution to even the hardest problem in life."

"If something is important enough to you, you won't give up"

^ K, Point Taken...

is there any one source of info that would break the whole game down the best?

And if anyone experienced wants to help, I'd be deff. Willing to experiment with this...

To start a following, you have to nurture your first followers. Because, they follow you, but everyone else follows them. ( ;

Your followers become leaders in their own rights.

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Munroe: "I kinoed the hell out of that goat"
Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

^ damn.. thats a good point.

Hmm, how to go about nurturing though?

[quote="~Finesse"]To start a following, you have to nurture your first followers. Because, they follow you, but everyone else follows them. ( ;

Your followers become leaders in their own rights.[/quote]


Great point