Unless I'm drunk, I can't get girls, I have no confidence at all even though I look good, amounts of compliments I get I should be confident but I'm not, I can't look at a HB7+ for more than a second without pulling eye contact away, I've got girls in clubs quite a few times, but that was only because I was quite drunk.

Example: Last night me and 2 of my mates were at a bar sitting down just watching people at the dancefloor, their was 2 girlmates HB7.5, HB8.5 dancing with each other and saw the HB8.5 looking at me but everytime I saw her looking back at me I couldn't hold her eye contact for anything, anyway like 10 mins after we went like 10 metres away and played pool on the pool table and I saw her in the corner of my eye walking near us about to pass and I looked at her and she was already looking at me and I couldn't keep eye contact at all. If I was drunk this would be a totally different story and I probably would have scored with her, it's ridiculus.

Another question to you guys: Can you tell if a girl likes you just by judging from eye contact?

ask little panda and do his SPAM chat, i used to be like you 1 week ago, now in this 1 week from a little help from little panda i got 3 girls over me lol

I've made a post about this before in general questions, its hard to be confident all the time. There's a lot of posts about meditation and all sorts of crap, I've tried and it hasn't worked for me, but it really takes practice. Sober game takes more practice, I tried to do the eye contact thing too, briefly, but was failing pretty bad, its just a bad habit for a lot of us (probably stuck in an embedded belief). I hit up a bar with my lady friend, about 2 cups of bud, I said fuck it, I'll do the eye contact thing. Saw a girl walking up, something took over from there, I held the contact for 3-4 seconds and gave a slight upward nod, it worked magic. She opened me less than a minute later, didn't have to say shit, and this girl was a solid 9. Good looks help us out, but you're right, as much as I get complimented on my looks, it doesn't create that spark that makes us be the smoothest guy out there. Beer doesn't create the spark, it slows your mind down and drowns out that crappy little voice trying to ruin you so you can concentrate on other things.


I think the best remedy for the returning feelings of AFCness is to have the life and image of a confident person. Immerse yourself, don't just go to the bar 1 or 2 nights a week and think that is going to fix you. Another thing, choose your friends better. You might have friends you love, but you know that they aren't motivated like you to meet women, and they often serve as a distraction or an anchor. I understand the feelings of dependence on alcohol, not that you're an alcoholic, you just need that extra boost to put you in the zone. I've been there, I haven't gotten out of it, but sometimes you'll catch a tailwind and feel good enough to be that person sober. I don't think you should be ashamed that you need a little alcohol to loosen up, but at least you've recognized that your sober game is struggling. The only way to get good at things is to practice.


To your question, absolutely. I am a firm believer in eye contact. You have to remember that first impressions are important, if your first impression is some confident fucking eye contact, there's a good chance its smooth sailing.

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