hey, plz take the time to read the following as i feel i raise a good point

seriously tho what is the point? studying all this crap. I really was starting to get into this but then after observing some of my friends in action (naturals) all it seemed they had over me was confidence and good social skills. Why waste time learning patterns, rehearsing lines etc when you can just get out there and do it the normal way? To be honest although alot of what pua artists do and say can be copied, theres no way im going to do it just because it works for some people, especially NLP and hypnosis.
Haha think about it? Whats better - recited routines and hypnotizing a girl, yes we are actually hypnotizing our women now! into a false relationship where your never honest or can be yourself or getting a girl the natural way and feeling proud of who you are and that it was your own personality which got you the girl.

Im really quite confused still and have no idea what to do, because although i believe what i just said i cant help but notice the immense success people have had by doing all the pua stuff in depth.

Plz someone shine a light and talk some knwoledge

Are you saying that all the pickups, lines, stoires etc are just training wheels to help people build social skills when they talk to girls because tbh wouldnt it just be easier to say, get out there and talk to girls over and over again until you develop your own style, isnt that what the original puas did?

hey, plz take the time to read the following as i feel i raise a good point

seriously tho what is the point? studying all this crap. I really was starting to get into this but then after observing some of my friends in action (naturals) all it seemed they had over me was confidence and good social skills. Why waste time learning patterns, rehearsing lines etc when you can just get out there and do it the normal way? To be honest although alot of what pua artists do and say can be copied, theres no way im going to do it just because it works for some people, especially NLP and hypnosis.
Haha think about it? Whats better - recited routines and hypnotizing a girl, yes we are actually hypnotizing our women now! into a false relationship where your never honest or can be yourself or getting a girl the natural way and feeling proud of who you are and that it was your own personality which got you the girl.

Im really quite confused still and have no idea what to do, because although i believe what i just said i cant help but notice the immense success people have had by doing all the pua stuff in depth.

Plz someone shine a light and talk some knwoledge

hey, plz take the time to read the following as i feel i raise a good point

seriously tho what is the point? studying all this crap. I really was starting to get into this but then after observing some of my friends in action (naturals) all it seemed they had over me was confidence and good social skills. Why waste time learning patterns, rehearsing lines etc when you can just get out there and do it the normal way? To be honest although alot of what pua artists do and say can be copied, theres no way im going to do it just because it works for some people, especially NLP and hypnosis.
Haha think about it? Whats better - recited routines and hypnotizing a girl, yes we are actually hypnotizing our women now! into a false relationship where your never honest or can be yourself or getting a girl the natural way and feeling proud of who you are and that it was your own personality which got you the girl.

Im really quite confused still and have no idea what to do, because although i believe what i just said i cant help but notice the immense success people have had by doing all the pua stuff in depth.

Plz someone shine a light and talk some knwoledge

Fin can you plz give me a breakdown and explain, i dont expect pages of writing just some brief knowledge. Its not that im lazy and dont want to learn because i do, its just when i start questioning what im doing i find it near impossible to keep interest.

regards and thankyou to everyones input so far

Ignore Ezo! ...He's just on his own path and wants to be a pick up guru.

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: what is the point?

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dowierasta wrote:
hey, plz take the time to read the following as i feel i raise a good point

seriously tho what is the point? studying all this crap. I really was starting to get into this but then after observing some of my friends in action (naturals) all it seemed they had over me was confidence and good social skills. Why waste time learning patterns, rehearsing lines etc when you can just get out there and do it the normal way? To be honest although alot of what pua artists do and say can be copied, theres no way im going to do it just because it works for some people, especially NLP and hypnosis.
Haha think about it? Whats better - recited routines and hypnotizing a girl, yes we are actually hypnotizing our women now! into a false relationship where your never honest or can be yourself or getting a girl the natural way and feeling proud of who you are and that it was your own personality which got you the girl.

Im really quite confused still and have no idea what to do, because although i believe what i just said i cant help but notice the immense success people have had by doing all the pua stuff in depth.

Plz someone shine a light and talk some knwoledge





Well done for noticing this. You are now on the right path!

Ignore Ezo! ...He's just on his own path and wants to be a pick up guru.



Bro, all you really need to do is this.

1) Become comfortable in social situations. Just get comfortable.

- Stop caring what people think, regardless of what ezo says
- Don't be scared to make mistakes, in fact, thrive of them. Any silly blunder or mishap serves as a great little story for future interactions.

2) Become charismatic. Charming. Good conversation skills.

- Be genuienly interested in people
- Be sincere
- Bring joy to peoples' lives

3) Learn to be sexual / escalate.

- Sex is the goal. You want a girlfriend? Not matter what you hear, sexual attraction is largely most important thing. Remove sex from the equation, you're just good friends. Unless you 'fall in love' through some very gradual way, but it still comes down to sex.

- Be smooth, be suave, be subtle. Be tongue in cheek, be overt, be sexual on different levels.

4) (comes with experience) Learn to judge/adapt to situation.


As an afterthought, FORGET ABOUT VALUE!!!
1. there's always going to be someone 'higher value' than you, so therefore, you'll lose.
2. Value means different things to different people.



This may sound like I'm giving a 'method'. They are nothing but principles at most. Just very vague advice that once you adjust to, will reap you great success.

Why waste time learning patterns, rehearsing lines etc when you can just get out there and do it the normal way? To be honest although alot of what pua artists do and say can be copied, theres no way im going to do it just because it works for some people, especially NLP and hypnosis.

I am not on my own path.