Basically, this post is to see who thinks that there is a difference between freshmen/sophomore college girls (who generally are 18-20 and meet guys at parties) and girls who meet new men at bars (being 21+). I have noticed a difference and I am just seeing if anyone else has. Also feel free to comment on my observations or say some stuff about this topic! "The difference" that I am referring to would be in regards, but not limited to, the following:

a. Maturity
b. Willingness to meet up a second time
c. Effect of using pickup material
d. Ability to become attracted when a guy uses game
e. Challenge


Some general observations:

1. Freshmen and sophomore college girls that go to parties are meeting a LOAD of new guys. I feel like these girls are getting so many new options that the last guy they met doesn't really matter. It seems like most of these girls are living for the night and not thinking about their future with a guy.

2. Freshmen and sophomore college girls are still immature. Seems like this leads to a mentality of "on to the next dick." They do not really understand what pursuing a guy is yet, especially when they have a load of options.

3. The game was developed based on an age group of girls who were generally from ages 21-30.

4. Girls I have met at bars listen intently and carry a much more logical conversation.

5. I have had a load of more day 2's with girls aged 21+ than my almost 70% failure rate with girls 18-20.

6. There is not much for a girl for 18-20 to be attracted to besides looks and confidence. When a girl is 21+ she is attracted to many more things, including career paths, aspirations, outlooks on life, etc.

7. Not all girls 21+ are down to have sex because they are more mature. Therefore, most of these girls are looking for a second or third meetup with a guy. More meetups = possible continued sexual encounters.

8. If a guy is not trained in the game when he is 21+, he will most likely seem even more AFC than the immature guys in college. This makes PUAs look more attractive to older girls.

9. After age 21, girls are reaching a point where they want a boyfriend. If they are just fucking every guy and not genuinely becoming interested, they will just feel used.

10. "Dating" seems more applicable to older girls. "Fucking" seems more applicable to girls under 20.

If you have not applied game to girls in college to see the comparable difference, please mention that. Keep the replies positive and flowing.

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Don, I think you are splitting hair way to fine here on this. Girls just don't magically change once they turn 21. I am not saying there are not differences as there are some, but not as much as I think you make it out to be. If anything a lot of the 21+ stuff more applies to girls that are 25+ and all of the 18-20 stuff more applies to girls under 25. I know we are making broad general statements and all. But older girls tend to be more mature and ground as they been around longer and have been out in the world for a bit so they have a better sense of whats going on than those younger than them.