I'm 25 and she's 21. 7 dates over a 10 week period and all I'm getting is mixed signals.

We kiss and kino (but no seductive kino yet, since for some reason she only kisses open mouthed WITHOUT tongue). But we share so many common interests/values that there is a significant amount of investment there.

From experience, any other girl I’ve dated in the past I would have either made into a LTR or F-buddy by now. This one, however, has been hot and cold with me constantly.

Usually, this is fine as I just go about my own business for a few days until she warms up again. However, by Monday she'll be overseas for 6 weeks.

I had a day out with her on Wednesday had her laughing and I left her on a high. Didn’t contact her Thursday. Sent her a text Friday asking if she wanted to go out one more time before she left.

I never got a proper reply. (I should add that she always replies/returns calls)

Should I call her before she leaves?

We’ve been seeing each other for a sufficient time period that me NOT speaking to her before she leaves would just be plain awkward.

On the other hand, we had a great date, and she’s almost freezing me out and at such an awkward time (days before she leaves overseas). If she wanted to speak to me before she left, she could have replied to my message or called me.

I’ve been in the PUA community for only 2 years so I still have much to learn. This girl in particular has not responded in a way that I seem accustomed to.

10 weeks is a helluva long time to go without sex, much less a proper makeout. Your game just isn't to the point it needs to be to get this girl in your court. She's about to leave, it's pretty common for a girl to be distant during this time. Are you sure she's coming back? Definitely try to get with her before she leaves, but don't put pressure on yourself to close. You'll then have 6 weeks to up your game and come hard when she gets back.

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31 and still figuring it out.

I could be totally wrong, but so far I've been making this a matter of frame. i.e I don't need her for sex, especially since she told me she was a devout catholic until just after high school.

I am already getting sex from 2 other long term friends with benefits. (Sometimes I think it's because of this that she's so distant. Last time we were together I gave her a lift home but another female friend had spotted my parked car earlier in the day and drew me a big love heart with her name on it and stuck it in my windscreen wiper for me to find. But this girl found it and read it instead)

Admittedly, there are times where I wonder 'how come she isn't all hot and bothered' making out. She only does gentle open-mouthed kisses with no tongue and I get the sense that she is 'tense'.

I must say that this girl has admitted that I 'make her self-conscious' and 'second guessing herself'. Not wanting to press, I didn't ask her what she meant.

Its a weird relationship and I think we both know this but won't admit to it.

Unh. Well at this point, it might be okay to actually communicate with her and ask her what she thinks is wrong (she might be too inexperienced to actually know). Catholic girls can be easy, if you give them their first orgasm, they'll bond really fast. If it were me, though, I'd wonder if being with me would be good for the girl and if I concluded it wouldn't; I'd be open to cutting her loose. Are you sure this girl even knows how to make out? She probably just needs to be taught that she's doing it all wrong. I get the impression inexperience has a lot to do with this, you can clear it up with some truthful talking.

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31 and still figuring it out.

I'd probably call the shots before she doe's. Something like "hey this isnt going all to well, I'm normaly way ahead in a relationship bye now. I dont know whats up exactly are tou alrite?". That way if she's thinking its your fault you can turn it around on her. Then depending on her responce I'd probably get her to come over and watch a movie and just keep escalating. Id bring the tounge into the kissing very slowly and get her used to it. Would get you more in controll of the frame if you can warm her up to it.

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Wow, lucky girl. She's strung you along for attention for 10 weeks, and now she gets to go abroad and get railed by foreigners...

Firstly, do not ask her what's up. She is inexperienced and probably not super in touch with her sexual side. She comes from a Catholic upbringing, use this to your advantage. Respect her rules and structure - this is her comfort zone. But present yourself as someone who represents a new adventure and dark exploration. Be mysterious and she will get curious. You will have to be patient. But make sure she knows where your head is at - "I just love good girls. I want to bring them over to the dark side"

Her inexperience has often crossed my mind. However, she is a 9-10 in the looks department (twice while we were out, she has been approached by strange girls who comment on how 'pretty she is')

She has plenty of guy friends. A hot girl with lots of guy friends rarely leads to inexperience.

But you guys could be right as well, since she seems so dam awkward.

Zephyrine/Minsok/Stick - out of curiosity, what is your experience with catholic girls? I myself have never dated or even befriended a religious girl and always assumed them to be no different than an atheist.

Happy to brag. First girl I had sex with was devout Catholic. She'd never had an orgasm, never even been touched through her panties. I did that the first time we hung out and she uber latched onto me. It was beautiful. I didn't even have game then, she was just so... curious. And had never been alone with a guy that wasn't a candy ass.

Dude, it's been ten fucking weeks, just ask her what the fuck is up, you're already in AFC town, at least figure out what her deal is before she leaves. Questioning our experience isn't going to win this for you. I don't think I've had any other experiences with devout Catholics, they sort of grow out of it when they get around my age. The case study above is also no longer Catholic, somewhat due to my influence.

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31 and still figuring it out.

I come from a religious background, altho not practicing myself, I do know how the religious girls act.

Basically, it depends on the culture i.e. which country etc they come from, but generally they will cock tease you to high heavens. When push comes to shove, they wont sleep with you. There are exceptions to the rule, the "bad" girls but in general they like the idea of having boyfriends and they will have them they will kiss, maybe fondle etc and maybe give you head but pussy? Mate only if ya give them a ring on their finger.

Christian girls, especially from religious families and cultures, they will not have sex with you.

Then again as I said exceptions to the rule.

I come from a religious background, altho not practicing myself, I do know how the religious girls act.

Basically, it depends on the culture i.e. which country etc they come from, but generally they will cock tease you to high heavens. When push comes to shove, they wont sleep with you. There are exceptions to the rule, the "bad" girls but in general they like the idea of having boyfriends and they will have them they will kiss, maybe fondle etc and maybe give you head but pussy? Mate only if ya give them a ring on their finger.

Christian girls, especially from religious families and cultures, they will not have sex with you.

Then again as I said exceptions to the rule.

Yeah, the girls with the least sexual experience are the easiest targets because they NEVER expect it to feel so good. Seducing this girl would be easy, but how would you feel knowing you made her compromise her moral integrity? On the other hand, if you don't do it, someone else probably will. Sure, some of these girls will only give handjobs, head, and anal, but I bet a majority of them have sex and just lie about it. "Oh, husband, I don't know why I don't have a cherry, must have been all the horseback riding I did."

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31 and still figuring it out.

gl mate!

this is all about spirit and beeing yourself at the end of the day...