I was just wondering after a direct approach during daygame and after youve started a conversation,how would you carry that on to a number close.

Direct aproach and negs dont mix. Period.

Direct aproach and negs dont mix. Period.

Very,very true,the circumstances are entirely different,Negs are used to lower a girls value relative to your own when the "bitch shield" is up to give you opportunity to drop DHV's and use language patterns to enable the seduction.

A woman on her own in daygame isn't expecting to be approached and her shields are nearly down,the initial approach acts as a pattern interrupt allowing you time to get your foot in the door whilst she is in an initial confusional state.

Consider.....If a guy got talking to you in the line or at a bustop about sport or weather or some other trivia,well that's fine you chat away.....However.....if he started giving negative comments about your appearance then that's weird even for another guy so imagine how a woman would feel.

False. They can mix. You just know how and when to use them.

Then explain it jurupa, how?

As far as i know a direct aproach shows interest. A neg is a false disqualifier, showing you dont have interest.

If you show interest first, how can you neg after? Sure, if she does not come to your expectations you must not considerer her, but is it really a neg?

You know what a push/pull is right? Well that is what you be doing here. The push here is the direct opener showing interest which is followed up by the pull which is the neg. You can run them back to back or space them out some. But don't separate them too much or else you may loose what ever effect of the push/pull.

If I use direct approach and need to play push/pull I use false time constraint. Works for me.

I don't really believe negs are necessary in daygame. I guess it might work for other people, but I don't like to use negs. I figure if you build enough attraction, she will be interested and will give you her number... period. If you do not build enough attraction, she will not give you her number. As far as how to ask for her number- I think how you actually do it is not important... as long as you have built up enough attraction, she will give it to you (if not, then she wont). You can just ask her straight out "You seem like an interesting person to talk to... Can I get your number so I can call you sometime?" But like I said, how you do it is less important than whether or not you have built up enough attraction.

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Delivery is a huge part of game. Even if you built up a lot of attraction in a girl doesn't mean you can slack off on your delivery.