Howdy. I'm a pretty big afc, i can number close and kiss close half the time, but getting in their pants is the hard part. My method is somewhat home grown mostly a combination of everything, I've found peacocking does work atleast for me. my most successful sarge was performed wearing a pirate hat and an eye patch. Where im at things are made a bit more difficult. I'm an american soldier in germany, so the local clubs are full of soldiers, who all conside themselves puas, when in reality teh girls their picking up are just out for their wallet. I tend to find the girls who dont need to mooch off of a mans wallet, and arent skanks. the problem is with game is i have a language barrier. my german isnt great, and though most germans speak english, their english isnt great either., i need some simple ways to build sexual tension, and some openers, and ideas for peacocking.

Last night i was in the club, and i found an HB9 with her friends, the hottest ive ever gone for. i opened with a very direct approach....i started dancing with her morbidly obese fat friend, who pushed me away and sent me to dance with HB9. I cant dance very well...my kind of music is loud rock music and metal...this was a rap and pop club. HB9 cant dance very well either so we just wound up building some common ground on the fact we cant dance, but we danced together anyway, and I told her we suck at dancing, but were great together(lame, but she smiled, grabbed my hand and took me to the smoking room), where i did the guy thing and found a booth for us all to sit in, her and her fat friend. i had a buddy ready to run interference on the fat chick and take her. Now, i dont smoke, but it seems everyone else does, so i pulled out a package of gum and tried to pull some cocky funny and say its gonna taste horrible when i kis her, to chew a peice of gum instead. she smiled, and laughed, then lit up.(this whole conversation was switching between german and english, and every point was difficult to explain) Well after smoking she told me her english sucks, i told her we will get along just fine, because my german sucks as much as her english. while she was sitting down i was using some kino and rubbing her shoulders, she responded with a smile, and squeezing my thigh. She then asked me to "learn her english", i told her only if she "learns me german" we went and danced again, and she was grinding on my junk...awkward moment...i was hard as hell at this point, she could feel it, but she didnt say anything, and i kept dancing with her just following her hips with mine with my hands on her waist. At this point i attempted to kiss close, she turned her head and pointed at her cheek, and said she doesnt know me well enough. i then said i understand perfectly, acted depressed, hung my head, she put her arm around me and kissed my cheek a she began to dance again. i proceded to ask if she has a boyfriend, she said no, and i asked her if shes looking for one, she looks at me with a play ful smile, and says to come to a techno club with her next weekend, her and i both had to get going at this point, so i number closed, kissed her on both cheeks, and gave her a hug, which she grace fuly returned, and she told me she would come kick me in the nuts if i didnt text her.
Definitely an AFC sarge...need suggestions

It was kinda AFC, but I have a feeling it wasn't as AFC as most of the other guys who try to hit on her. She likes you enough to give you the number, and set up going to another place. Just make sure you escalate.

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I will never claim my suggestions to be what is purely right. These are just what they are: suggestions. If I give a suggestion to you and it sounds good, but backfires miserably, do not blame me. I can't guarantee you anything.

Thank you for the boost of confidence, she wants me to go to a techno club in a nearby town next weekend with her "so she can show me real dancing". I pretty sure i can dance to techno just by letting the inner jackass out, any suggestions for building rapport, and not being a total AFC in round 2?

Im so excited writing this, 'cause I believe I know exactly what you didn't do and what you did wrong.

First of all, get this into your head: You were INCHES away from having sex with this girl, or at the very least kissing her.

I have several points to make here:


1: You're not great at german, and most germans does not care to learn proper english (arrogant bastards), and you have problems getting from a kiss/phone number to sex.

The last week I really got into the 4-compendium book written by 60 years of challenge. His methods is EXACTLY what you should be using. It's all escalating furiously fast, keeping eye contact, be persistent, and shutting the fuck up most of the time.
See how that fits to you?

a) You've got problems getting to sex /// This game-style is probably the most sexual one.

b) You've got a language barrier due to english/german skills /// This game-style is probably the most non-verbal one, it's all about making her talk so you can seduce her with eye-contact, seductive smiles, and eventually caressing her.


Okay, some specific situations this night I wanna talk about:

2: Even though it worked, you shouldn't have started dancing with her fat friend. HB9 knows you wanna get with her, and not her fat friend, women are not socially stupid. So by dancing with her fat friend, you're actually just showing the HB9 that you're too insecure to go directly to her. but it worked!!! - Yes, but you would've created more sexual attraction from the HB9 if you had done my above suggestion.


3: You do some seemingly clever cocky-funny thing and comments that she's gonna taste horrible when you kiss her, which is both good and bad. I'm assuming you said it playfully and with your goal being her laughing about it. However, this comment would've been absolutely golden if you had said it very seriously while keeping eye-contact, and with a little seductive smile on your face. This is basically the same problem as with dancing with her fat friend first.
You said the comment while in self-defense-mode. You said it half-jokingly 'cause then she wouldn't turn ice-cold and reply "we're not going to kiss.", and you wouldn't end up getting hurt. SHE KNOW THIS! She knows you want to kiss and fuck her, but she's thinking "apparently he didn't dare admit it, because he is protecting his feelings.." - Not sexually attractive. ESPECIALLY not in a situation where she has actually taken your hand and lead you with her - This girl wanted to be fucked!

If you said it the seductive way I suggested, you would've have created more sexual tension, and she would be more turned on, and thus very open to the idea of having sex with you.

You might have been able to recover from the 2 above things and sleep with her that night anyways, but these two last things I'm going to mention is dead seriously sexually catastrophic:

You were ashamed of your boner?!
Say this with me:
I'm a sexual being, I'm a sexual man! I have a boner! I not ashamed of my boner! Because if IM ashamed of my boner, why the hell would SHE touch it?
Rub that boner all over her ass cause, again, she is not stupid. She knows that when she rubs her ass on your cock, its gonna get hard, and she's going to feel it. She wanted to feel your boner! That's a good thing!

The fact that you were awkward about your boner really turned the sexual tension off between you and her.

But to finish the last sexual tension between you and her, you actually GIVE UP after she makes her standard ASD response "I dont know you well enough". Persistence is sexy, your response should've been looking her seductively in her eyes, smile, and then after some seconds leaned in and go for it again. I guarantee she would've kissed you. I guarantee it.

Instead of just reacting cool, you do the worst possible thing: Act depressed and hurt - you actually hung your head! This is your biggest mistake all night. One of the most important things I've learned about game is: Women loves to reject you, to see how you respond to it. They do it all the time! You can call it a shit-test. The point is, when someone rejects you - you NEVER EVER EVER react to it. You simply smile, maybe break eye contact off quickly, and then you can go for it again right away, or you can wait some minutes just to be absolutely sure.

Advice that will change your game radically positively:

Read "60 years of challenge", especially the "Fearless Relentless Escalation" and "Women Ignition" compendiums.


I hope I wasn't to harsh on you man. You actually did great. If you notice what I've read, it's mostly the same corrections I'm making, meaning you only need a little bit of game-polishing on that area (50 minutes of reading, really...), and then you can officially land HB9's - So please realize that you are actually very close to have great game!

PS: No I'm not a paid advertiser from "60 years of challenge" , I just really thought his methods applied perfectly to the last inches you are missing.


Have fun!