One of my mates is pretty fugly, but he's one of my best friends in the world. Myself, (not trying to be an arrogant douche) I'm guessing 8 or 9 based on stuff past gf's have told me. My friend on the other hand is slighly pudgy and looks old for his age.

When I go out with this particular friend I seem to have worse luck than with my other friends. And he does everything right game-wise. He helps me isolate, he remembers to neg, he even opens sometimes but he can never seem to get the girl and I only manage to number close whereas I can usually kiss close every other time. Have any of you experienced having a fugly wingman lower your odds of closing or am I just imagining things?

Most importantly, how can I help him out because I'm not ditching a best friend for pussy.

The thing about having an ugly wingman is that it gives you bad social proof and that will make you have trouble gaming other sets. You should just game with people who look about as good as you that way you don't DLV yourself with an ugly ass wingman. haha

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Nothing in pick up applies to all women. There's no such thing as rejection... they're just playing hard to get.

it doesn't matter if he is fugly or not he just needs to step up his game and maybe change his fashion style.

I agree with the previous post... just help him with his fashion style and he should be fine as a wingman... especially if he does everything else right.

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Maybe help him out by taking him to the gym, give him some fashion tips or tell him to read some male fashion magazines.