I figured I'd post here since I didnt get any responses in the Intro board...

Kana here, I'm 27 years old and I've read the Mystery Method and parts of The Game. I joined this forum specifically to get advice for a short guy. I'm only 5' 4" and my insecurity about my height only adds to my approach anxiety. I understand that it is MY OWN issue with my height myself, but I was just wondering if there's one anyone in the same boat as me, and what advice could you offer? It's a known fact women prefer taller men, so with that embedded in my head, I feel like I can't even compete. I've had girlfriends before, but I feel that I dont have a chance pulling those 9s and 10s. Everytime I walk into a club/bar, it can be pretty intimidating when the majority of the women are taller than you, and the ones that are my height or shorter are after the taller guys as well. How do I break through this? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

I hate to break it to you, but you're doomed. You'll never get a girl because you're short. Just give it up.

Of course I'm joking. You should check out Sean Stephenson. He's like this 3-foot tall crippled guy in a wheelchair, and he dates supermodel type girls because he's so confident and secure with himself. Awesome. Check him out.

sean stephenson won't help you much he's more of a motivational speaker

I have a friend about 5'5" or 5'6" he gets plenty girls model types and strippers. The thing is he's buff built like a football player. So he can definitely protect his women need be so his height isn't really factor to him. I suggest you get a 5 day a week weight training plan. Having muscles helps get women I know this for a fact.

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I know exactly where you're coming from. I've always been the short guy. I plateaued at 5'6". I wear some cowboy boots (you can find ones that are pretty incognito, even for the city) and I'm thinking of putting further lifts in them. They give me another, like two inches.

But I don't think the height is the real issue here. I realized at some point that I felt like even if I suddenly grew to 6'2" I'd have that same mentality sometimes, just because it's been so ingrained over the years to feel like "the short guy."

As such, I feel the height thing is an Inner Game problem. What have I done to help? I started with trying to game girls my height or shorter (it isn't hard to find short girls). Game girls who are sitting down, or when you're sitting down. Also, just getting yourself in a really great state before going out, such that your height is the last thing on your mind. You'll realize soon enough that most people don't care as much as you think about the height. Plus, if someone teases you its a great opportunity to show confidence and alpha-ness. If a girl teases you, just neg her. If a guy teases, just AMOG.

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That is one of the most rediculous pieces of advice ever given. Ok smart guy how about when she finally stands up you discover she's 6'2"

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From either perspective, when someone's sitting they don't really notice height much, unless it's a really big issue. Approaching when they're sitting, or you are, allows you to build attraction before they have the opportunity to judge you on your height.

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If the dream is won
Though everything is lost
We will pay the price,
But we will not count the cost.
-Rush

Buy some lifts for your shoes, they'll add a couple of inches. Hit on short girls.

Hey man, maybe I can help contribute to this. Im 5'3, this has also been a BIG issue with my approaches, to this day it's still in the back of my mind. I'd be lying out of my ass if I said that I still didnt think about it but...not nearly as much as I used to. I think it;s similar to having looks. Everyone WANTS to look like a model just like us short guys WANT to be 6'3 and athletic but were not. Thats the first reality that you have to face, and you should make the women you approach accept that too. By being comfortable with your height will convey to them that they should be too solely because YOU are, and if they cant...well...you didnt want them in the first place.

Im not gonna give you a Mr. Wizard formula to make you look taller, but if you are looking for something like that, buying good fitting clothes helps out alot, clothes that shape more to your body and arent baggy.

In the end of the day, just be you and roll with it. And I promise you, after you throw yourself into the fire a few times approaching women, you'll find that it doesnt matter as much as you thought it did. That I CAN promise.

Yep I am also a short guy dude. Trust me your height really doesn't matter. My last two girlfriends were 8/9's! Very hot! I agree with the dude above that said work out and get bigger muscles that will always help. Just go seek out the little shorty girl that are like 5'1 or 5'2. Short chicks are way hotter than tall girls anyway.

Work out and gain more weight. Yes you're at a disadvantage. But, height alone doesn't get the job done. If you're confident than you can actually be better than a tall guy with bad/no game.

Having muscles can help get women, but its not a for sure thing. The reason your friend gets girls with his height is because he has CONFIDENCE.

Confidence, work on it. Because really that is what you are lacking.

Thanks for all your insight, particularly Tal0n and Solteris, but everyone else's input is appreciated as well. I knew this was an inner game issue more than anything, and everything I was already feeling was confirmed by your responses. I never thought about lifts, though....hmmm. We'll see. But I know the real issue is my confidence, or lack thereof.

As far as my appearance, I do workout 6 days a week, and wear fitted clothes, to make myself "appear" as tall as possible. Apperance for the most part is controllable. It's the things that I cant control is where I have the issue. I guess once I have my inner game intact, the rest will come easier.

Thanks again.

Oh and I think that listening/watching vids of Sean Stephenson are great! So motivational and can definitely put me in the right state of mind!

**so glad I joined this forum

I'm pretty sure that every woman is concerned with feeling good emotionally. If you can make her feel good, she's not going to care if the person who did it is short or tall or fat or whatever.

Hello Kana,

About "The Game," why didn't you read the whole thing

About your height. The fact is that you are shorter than me. Also a fact is that I'm shorter than most of the people I have meet in my life. If dating was a competition where the tallest gets the hottest girl, you and I would, my friend, invariably fail.

But the real competition has no such condition. If the guy is 7, is funny and very fun to be around, is handsome and got the wits too; you, who were born to be a foot or less shorter than him and a foot or less taller than many others, will fail in comparison, but so will those who stand "below" you when compared to you.

As long as you have other things going for you, your height won't be a problem. Whatever you do, don't let it become an excuse to quit playing.