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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:02 am 
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Hey gents I came here to vent a little and I think I need a little "it will be ok" advice...

Sorry I guess we all have our good days and bad days but man last few days I felt like a fooking loser. Damn I got divorced back in December and although it took me a couple months to get over the slump I was very positive and excited to start dating. I read The Game and I was so positive. What has happened since I have had sax with three girls, one I am still dating and I am also working on a different one, and have went out on a few dates with her. Just to clarify the two girls I am currently dating are friends and are not just some hoes that I am banging.

Anyways, I've been doing the online dating about 90% of the time because I am in the military and stationed about an hour from a town and about 1.5 hours from Vegas and LA I think this is the best choice for my circumstance. Although I have had limited success even that is drying up. I am not sure what I am doing different, maybe I am being too impatient, I expect a lot at first, I guess. One of the girls that I am dating is a good friend of mine and we have a very good sexual relationship when we see each other once or twice per month. We are very open and sex is fun. I think what I am doing wrong is my initial back and forth with these girls online is going too fast, I don't think I am letting the rapport develop. I might be a little too aggressive since I don't want to go to the friend zone but at the same time I am not sure wtf is up. How do you guys escalate the back and forth? I know that shit takes time but I have to know what is productive to say and what is waste of time?

I guess I just needs some positive encouragement. I don't want to sound like a fn pussy but I am turning 31 next month and I feel like my time is passing me by. I am considering buying the new SS Camaro to at least get something shiny for the ladies too look at. I know that's not the answer but I am starting to see my confidence slipping me by. By the way I am not afraid to approach girls when I go out to the club, I just don't think I have very good intermediate game.

Ok I am done crying, thanks


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:45 am 
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I'm not totally sure what to make out of your post but seems like you got things together, except for the 'crying', hehe. Eitherway, sucks to be divorced but looks like you took it pretty well.
Seeing you're in the military you probably have a good looking posture, right? Those things do count and as how I see things it surely gets you an advantage, so use it. Don't brag it though but you can use the military for story-telling, alpha male etc. Usually marines/soldiers/pilots (no idea what you are) are confident with themselfs and as we all know, body language is the language of sex.
Eventhough it's what you want to hear, I'll still just say it. Don't be so harsh on yourself. Everyone has times where he feels bad.

As for the online-dating. There's probably only 1 hot girl with every 20guys. So unless your tekst game is great, just hit the city. I've been to LA and Vegas myself, so I know it's the best! I don't know how often you can leave base but if you're that close to the all-time party mekka in the world, you might aswell take advantage of it.

Goodluck and congratulations in advance 8)

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:30 am 
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Thanks Trotyl, great words

It's frustrating man, even when I go out I am overwhelmed and how much good looking tail is around and it's seem so damn unattainable. I hate how chicks have all the power when it comes to sex and attraction I wish I has an ounce of what some of these PUA have. I know there is a trick to it but I just haven't figured it out yet. Ahh I ll stop crying lol, especially since thats the first thing I tell my buds going through the same thing lol.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:56 pm 
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You're no different from any other man in the world. Everyone has had those moments in life and hell I still do. Not saying I'm great, but I've come pretty far with self-improvement and for now I'm getting results in surpressing that damn approach anxiety. It's always better to give it a shot then just see hotties walk passed by. My friends, distance to the city and mainly money have held me back for a long time, but I'm going to france for the holidays next week so I'm sure as hell going to throw in all the theories and information I've learned these passed months.

Though, knowing you have a job, being in the military, money won't be much of a problem for you. You mentioned your friends and if they're in the same situation, just show them the PUA world or just start with 'the game' and turn them into wingmen. As for the distance to the city, you're in the same shit as me. But you could always take buying a small/cheap house into consideration. Share it with friends or maybe some of your friends already have a shack in santa monica or whatever. (And you can show some muscle at muscle beach 8) haha).
As for the 'crying', it's alright. Atleast now you realize you want to change your life. You only live once and you might aswell enjoy it to it's full potential.

Keep me posted on your improvements/results. As for me, I'll try to keep a journal during my holiday.

I'll be hearing from you!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:32 am 
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Haha yeah man I wish you the best on your trip. I just spoke with a friend who went to Croatia for vacation and no shit he met his future wife there. Thats crazy, and I am not looking for a wife, but maybe I need to get over to Europe for a few weeks to check out the clientele there. Women here is US have King Arthurs Bitch Shield of hell. If you are not rich then your game has to be ridiculous in order to get with some of these good looking women. The ball is in their court, and it pisses me off lol. Anyways bud looking forward to reading your journals. Thanks again.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:31 am 
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Well the grass isn't always greener. Thing is, if there wasn't such a thing as a bitch shield, they'd all be sluts in my opinion.
Creating a lifestyle that increases your value is one thing, showing confidence is another. I know some rich people...and I mean like millionair rich and it isn´t not like people can actually know he´s rich just by looking at him. They can only asume he is. And if being rich makes you extremely confident, because hell ye I´d feel like a fucking king if I was that rich, then that´s just an extra. That doesn´t mean you can´t act the same way these people do.
I´ve been trying those tactics out and they sure as hell do work. Walk into a bar and say to yourself ´I´m the fucking prize here, so watch it´ you´ll automaticly create a posture and some sort of vibe around you that actually makes people think you are important, because you act like you are. You´ll have that feeling everyone is checking you out and when usually it creates anxiety, but while repeating that message and being in the situation, it makes you even more confident. Find your spot and meet your friend(s), be social like you´re used to and you´ve already scored bonus points. I´m not saying some HB10 will immediately start licking your face, but you´ll definitly feel more confident and good about yourself and eventually, others will too.

Also, if you´re worried about your appearance, don´t be afraid to spend an extra buck on clothes. Because clothing style usually conveys someones identity and women like a man that knows how to dress. Depending on what kind of girls you´re into, of course. I know for a fact that designer clothes are fairly cheap in the US, especially in the outlets. Vegas has a big one and damn I bought alot of new clothes there.

I personally think it´s not the place you´re at but the place you´re from and the situation people are in, when it comes to holidays. People act differently when they´re on holiday and I guess springbreak is a good example. Secondly it´s always interesting to meet people from far away, just imagine you´d meet a dutch girl in LA that might be as hot as an american girl, but still you´d be stoked. Americans just are more interesting in europe just like europeans are more interesting in the US, blend in the idea of not seeing that person, ever again, and it´s like winning the tour de france with a motorcycle.

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 Post subject: Re: FML
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:43 pm 
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Hey gents I came here to vent a little and I think I need a little "it will be ok" advice...

Sorry I guess we all have our good days and bad days but man last few days I felt like a fooking loser. Damn I got divorced back in December and although it took me a couple months to get over the slump I was very positive and excited to start dating. I read The Game and I was so positive. What has happened since I have had sax with three girls, one I am still dating and I am also working on a different one, and have went out on a few dates with her. Just to clarify the two girls I am currently dating are friends and are not just some hoes that I am banging.

Anyways, I've been doing the online dating about 90% of the time because I am in the military and stationed about an hour from a town and about 1.5 hours from Vegas and LA I think this is the best choice for my circumstance. Although I have had limited success even that is drying up. I am not sure what I am doing different, maybe I am being too impatient, I expect a lot at first, I guess. One of the girls that I am dating is a good friend of mine and we have a very good sexual relationship when we see each other once or twice per month. We are very open and sex is fun. I think what I am doing wrong is my initial back and forth with these girls online is going too fast, I don't think I am letting the rapport develop. I might be a little too aggressive since I don't want to go to the friend zone but at the same time I am not sure wtf is up. How do you guys escalate the back and forth? I know that shit takes time but I have to know what is productive to say and what is waste of time?

I guess I just needs some positive encouragement. I don't want to sound like a fn pussy but I am turning 31 next month and I feel like my time is passing me by. I am considering buying the new SS Camaro to at least get something shiny for the ladies too look at. I know that's not the answer but I am starting to see my confidence slipping me by. By the way I am not afraid to approach girls when I go out to the club, I just don't think I have very good intermediate game.

Ok I am done crying, thanks
You're being ridiculous, you do know that right? You're over your divorce in 6 months? I'm still pining for a girl that I dated for one month back in December. You're getting semi-regular sex from 3 girls? Every time I meet a girl I really like I find out she's planning to leave my area (the December girl signed up for the National Guard just before we met, for instance.)

You're an hour and a half from Vegas? LA? Take a weekend trip and see who you meet. Don't give me this "online dating has all dried up" bit either... I'm pretty damn sure I've messaged every girl in my area at this point.

You don't have it bad at all, so stop feeling sorry for yourself.


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 Post subject: Re: FML
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:57 pm 
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You're being ridiculous, you do know that right? You're over your divorce in 6 months? I'm still pining for a girl that I dated for one month back in December. You're getting semi-regular sex from 3 girls? Every time I meet a girl I really like I find out she's planning to leave my area (the December girl signed up for the National Guard just before we met, for instance.)

You're an hour and a half from Vegas? LA? Take a weekend trip and see who you meet. Don't give me this "online dating has all dried up" bit either... I'm pretty damn sure I've messaged every girl in my area at this point.

You don't have it bad at all, so stop feeling sorry for yourself.
Listen, I am not entirely complaining about what I have, I realize that's not bad, however when I go out to LA or Vegas, but more LA this ladies are fooking smokin hot and at this point with my game level I don't stand a chance and the other big one is that I am not in the near proximity. The biggest problem for me is the distance, since I am basing most of my complaints on the online dating community which in my opinion represents the norm of the population. So if I am seeing certain results amongst online dating then I should expect the same results if I was to go out to a bar or club.

My reasoning behind is that in order to get close to someone 7+ hours that MM says it takes to F-Close, than if they find out I live 1.5 hours or longer from them they will move on and go to someone else. It's not a coincidence that most of the girls that I see online have a radius of 30 miles or less. Every time I tell them where my base is, they stop the conversation in its tracks. I would say most girls that I find success in are either divorced with kids, never been married with kids or the ones who are in a situation where they are busy and don't have time to dick around with someone all the time.
So I realize I need a good slap and shaking but at the same time, it has been pretty difficult. I am 30 soon to be 31 and I want to bang some hot broads before I settle down again, which will be around 35 for me. Time is ticking and I am getting a little impatient, that's all.


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 Post subject: Re: FML
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:37 pm 
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So if I am seeing certain results amongst online dating then I should expect the same results if I was to go out to a bar or club.
No, you shouldn't actually. Online dating is different. Women are more careful and suspicious, and less willing to take risks. You can't game them quite as well either, since you can't kino or even do simple things like make eye contact.

Plus if a woman is talking to you on a dating site, she's evaluating you as a LTR not a ONS whereas in the clubs you pretty much decide how the interaction goes.
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My reasoning behind is that in order to get close to someone 7+ hours that MM says it takes to F-Close
Not sure, but I'm more than willing to bet some of the other more direct methods would disagree with this.
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So I realize I need a good slap and shaking but at the same time, it has been pretty difficult. I am 30 soon to be 31 and I want to bang some hot broads before I settle down again, which will be around 35 for me. Time is ticking and I am getting a little impatient, that's all.
I'm 33 and just lost my virginity a few months ago. I get the clock ticking bit, believe me... but stop making excuses and go out and game some women.

Advice I really need to follow more myself...


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