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| Falcony | PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:43 pm | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Enthusiast | Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:54 pm Posts: 68 | | In the past when I did not have as much experience and would take PU advice literally without questioning it or thinking it through properly and misenterpreting certain things I encountered certain problems:
* The most obvious was being rude to women instead of being cocky and funny which got me worst results than being a nice guy AFC, it caused fights and trouble when I didn't have that problem before. This was pretty stupid and I realised after a while that being a jerk is actually worst than being a nice guy and that stuff about it being better is BS, I also knew that being confident and being a cool guy is the best way to go and will get you the best results which some of the best PU advice focuses on.
* However less obvious was when I was doing everything right like being cocky and funny, a challenge, escalating, 2 steps forward 1 step back, etc. and she liked me at first and we made out or had sex then after a couple of weeks ignored me completely or I would not hear from her again. I got that a lot and still can't figure out why.
* Another one which is even worst but happened less often recently thankfully was when I did everything I was supposed to do like above and had my inner and outer game together except she wasn't interested or treated me like the nice guy even though I had bought her nothing and busted on her and she liked it earlier on but before I could escalate she left with some excuse or would chat to some other guy.
After this I kept thinking what am I doing wrong it must be my fault instead of holding some of the girls accountable for their actions and having higher standards of behaviour. PU says to have high standards but also says that if it goes wrong it is your fault which can mess you up a bit if you are doing everything as well as you can and it doesn't work out.
I have had some success recently, but some of that has been hindered by falling into bad habits and negative thinking patterns like 'oh I am not being alpha enough because in the PU book it says to and that guy who is being more alpha will get the girls', 'girls can read my mind and that I am not feeling so good right now because in the PU book it says they can' some of it is BS seriously,
How can I reframe these into more positive beliefs?
Does anyone have any insight on how you can be fun and interesting with a girl and a make out or a lay and then she does not contact you back after seeing her a few times or even just once?
Or how you do everything right and girls choose AFCs over you even though you are being a challenge and fun and they are being pussies and it doesn't happen as a one of but quite a few times?
I feel like I have been lied to by PU. Sometimes I am outdone by AFCs when according to the books and everything the gurus say would not happen. Being a challenge and fun only seems to work temporarily. This stuff doesn't seem ideal to get a girlfriend but only flings.
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| TheLastWolf | PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:28 am | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Addict | Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:28 pm Posts: 262 | | Without some solid examples its hard to say. However, two of the things you mentioned make it seem like you might be unintentionally being needy.
1)* However less obvious was when I was doing everything right like being cocky and funny, a challenge, escalating, 2 steps forward 1 step back, etc. and she liked me at first and we made out or had sex then after a couple of weeks ignored me completely or I would not hear from her again. I got that a lot and still can't figure out why.
Girls do that when they lose interest or if the guy is too needy..
2)* Another one which is even worst but happened less often recently thankfully was when I did everything I was supposed to do like above and had my inner and outer game together except she wasn't interested or treated me like the nice guy even though I had bought her nothing and busted on her and she liked it earlier on but before I could escalate she left with some excuse or would chat to some other guy.
Showed too much interest on your part, again could also be because you were too needy during the convos.
My advice is too show less interest and game more than just one, if you are not currently doing so.
Also, it doesn't always go your way. Every girl is different. It could be the targets you pick or it could be the girl, you never know.
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| Falcony | PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:12 pm | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Enthusiast | Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:54 pm Posts: 68 | | Maybe I was coming off as too needy unintentionally but as far as I know I wasn't and was doing everything right by letting her come to me, not calling her back right away and being funny and interesting and not always answering her questions straight away, so am still confused why it happened and still continues to happen about 50 percent of the time,
You are probably right I am meeting a lot of the wrong girls who do not know what they want or who are intimidated more by a guy who is a challenge than one who is a wuss,
Should I change into a wuss and that way I will get more girls or try and meet more people through social circle and friends of friends perhaps, the latter who are not usually as physically attractive as the girls who I meet out in bars or on the street and who usually lose interest after a while for some unknown reason as I do everything I am supposed to do as stated above,
Still confused any insight on why girls would lose interest even if you did everything right? Maybe they like wussies and boring guys.
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| AFC Royal | PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:32 am | |
| Offline | | Dedicated Member |  | Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 2:20 am Posts: 568 | | Obviously, things are not as you say they are. If you had your inner and outer game together, you would be an mPUA and you wouldn't be posting about your lack of results in this section.
So, why don't you give us useful information and admit the truth to us and to yourself so we can get on improving life for you. _________________ Don't hate, just dominate.
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| Falcony | PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:07 pm | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Enthusiast | Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:54 pm Posts: 68 | | Well AFC Royal sorry to burst your bubble but I am afraid that they are some of the time but not all of the time which is why I hooked up at the weekend and am going on dates with a couple of other girls,
I realised now what I have not been doing enough of qualifying her and I was acting too aloof almost arrogant and sarcastic to the girls in an angry way some of the time because I thought they were lame for going with those AFCs, I tend to do not so much of that when I have a drink which is why I am doing better at night game now, some girls do annoy me with their stupidity so I end up walking away from them and chatting to more open and interesting girls like the one I hooked up with,
Some girls are stupid and some are cool not every set is the same,
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