Heres the concept: i am somewhat new to this whole pua thing. not to brag, but i used to be great with the ladies, before my ex, i got anyone i wanted and did not want. well thats the past, i recently got into pua because all that "game" i had disapeared. now i am getting into it again, i am great with the girls( or so i think) when it comes to talking 1 on 1, having conversations, just some life shit, but my real issue is that some days i feel unstoppable, i am naturally c&f, i make them laugh, i create comfort super quick. but:

i am lacking i beleive in the attraction stage, recently i try telling dhv stories, and i sound to myself like if i am trying to sell myself, and i feel like they catching on to this. example " BLA BLA BLA, yeah you know, the most important things in my life are my family, that including my sisters, mother, and father. and nothing can get between me and them." trying to demonstrate protector of loved ones attribute. but you see, i feel like its too direct. any tips on making this less direct? this also includes the leader of man, pre selected etc. i feel like i am trying too hard, but that if i dont try hard enough, i would never get the opportunities to demonstrate this in the first place. how can i simply make these conversations flow for my benefit, as in, these values show for themselves, not feel unright.

heres my biggest concern, somedays i feel like i can handle any shit, but when it comes to the real thing, i get a few shit tests or a turn down (usually in the sexual or hooking up context) and it throws me off. my inner game is to the point where i am like ok her loss, she dosent even know me etc. i feel like in writting i know all i need to know, what to do, what to say, etc etc. but in the real thing i struggle and i keep myself down. any tips on taking it from my head to action and really making things flow. cuz in knowledge i am not lacking, but i cant seem to take it out. so when i get shit tested or denied, i feel like making it up, and then i appear needy etc, i lose the control and bam, downhill

also: all my techniques all my things go downhill when i get a response i dont want. why is this, how can i adapt quickly and keep it to my benefit to win the war, not just the fight.

and last but not least, recently NEGS have become my best friends. for some dumb reason, i am afraid or somewhat dont feel i should, actually try to compliment girls for the things they do. yes i know compliment when they deserve it but i feel these negs are coming on too strong or too soon and strong for the time. i cant seem to keep enough conversational threads so i result to negs to justify this fail and protect my ego. any tips on this issue as well is appreciated. its a long post but if you can help me i can help you, unfortunatly i can help all but myself, at times. so to continue on this neg issue, i feel i am using too many negs and not enough dhv, conversationa threads, and even compliments. i dont feel natural doing these things.

i got a f close about 3 weeks ago, shit load of numbers, ect, but mostly flakes. one kiss, w.e. now when i get one of these things i throw my game out, and go from the top to zero again. any tips on keeping motivated and seeing this from a different perspective?

any help is appreciated.

is this geo? LOL

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na lol. ha, i guess geo has my problems then.


something i forgot to add, i restrain myself too much to stick to the writting game. should i step out of it and jump into it sometimes or stick by it %100. as in compliment as opposed to her earning it, not neg as opposed to neg. etc

Yeah, your game style sounds very unnatural.

Honestly man, if you stick with unnatural game, you just have to practice a ton and learn a lot of material so you can calibrate a routine stack all the way to close.

If you're C&F though, you probably don't need your silly routines. Just do what comes naturally, don't force the interaction. Then just escalate. If you have problems at any stage, that's where you need practice.

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i think thats it. i been replacing my natural for the canned instead of replacing my bad naturals, not ALL of it