Bit of background: I'm 25 years old, have only ever been in one serious relationship, and have only ever slept with two women. I was recently seeing someone, it wasn't at all serious and never went that far, I was considering calling it off but she got in first, which resulted in me moping about like an idiot wondering where I went wrong, and now wanting to do something about it before it's too late!

I just have zero confidence, and to be honest for how long it's been, practically zero experience either. Arguably two of the most important things, and I have neither.

One problem I have is simply where to meet girls? The places I go to, mostly either cinema or gigs, aren't idea lto get chatting to girls, and I'm not a massive fan of clubs or bars.

Another is I fall into the 'nice guy' category. It's probably a mixture of being overly cautious and not wanting to take risks, being a bit boring (unfortunately) and of course actually being nice in general too. This in particular I need to work on; being more interesting, more fun, being more like I am around my mates, but where do I even start?

One thing I've noticed is if I drink most of the above goes out of the window, I completely open up and my confidence goes through the roof. This isn't ideal though, so I'm wondering how to take the good parts of myself when drunk, and apply them to my every day life?

On a final note I have to say I'm far more interested in finding someone nice, with the potential of it going somewhere, than I am just casual flings, although sadly I also have to say I'd probably take whatever I could right now, so either way is good

Apologies for the super long post, but I'd be real grateful of any advice or tips you guys (or gals!) could give. Thanks!

This topic is way too long for me to read haha
but erm
if your starting from scratch i would advice reading theese people material in this order

The Game ( background information on P.U.A. general tips and layout of what the p.u.a. lifestyle is about)

David Deangelo - double your dating

Swingcats - Real world seduction ( i would read this book a few times its that good)

Gambler's material ( more advanced stuff which will be useless if you dont know to use the basics , but when you do know how to sue the basics this stuff will be absolute gold )

and just generally practicing being more socail

Awesome thanks Zappo, and yeah it was super long sorry, that's why I put bits in bold in case most people get bored reading long stuff like I do!

Will try and grab The Game and the book by David Deangelo now thanks. That's what I need really, stuff to get me into the basics and hopefully help me build my confidence etc.

Im in the same boat as you OP.

Im not confident, not experienced, dont go out much, dont have many friends, am a bit dull, shy (hidden in aggressiveness)

I cant beleive how much I suck.

Im 26 and NEVER had a gf, had sex twice with a drunk 40 y.o.

i see 15 y.o. kids whov seen more action than me.

Where to meet girls?

Park
Cafe
Bookstore
Shop
Street

If you have one or two drinks on the weekend to help you relax and give you a bit of confidence, I don't personally see anything wrong with that, as long as you're not getting trashed before you can work up the nerve to talk to anyone.

To help with your confidence you could try the Style 30 day challenge.

Or, you could pick a few simple openers every day, and just work on using them on a few women every day. Set your goal as just opening the first few days, then having a 5 minute conversation, and increase your goals until you're comfortable getting a number or two.

Hah, don't worry will - there's so much good information out there, and a lot of cool/helpful people on here, so I'm sure we'll get there eventually

Thanks blond, some real good shouts there, and places I rarely go to (park - no dog to walk, cafe - don't really go, bookstore - don't read) but all things I'd like to maybe try and visit more (start reading, borrow a friends dog etc!) as they'd be perfect places for meeting people.

My main worry about the drink thing is that where I live, it's just not easy to pop out to a bar or something and have a few drinks, it's a bit out of the way you know? Which is why I need to stop using it as a crutch of sorts!

What is the Style 30 day challenge? I did Google it but didn't find much unfortunately. And yeah I think randomly trying to speak to girls would really help, I'm terrible for that and generally won't say anything even if there's a perfect opportunity to do so!