Here is the problem, the only woman I see during the week that I find attractive(don't worry my standards are rock bottom) is 24-25 bachellorete(I think). She is easily an 8-9 and could do much MUCH better than me. I am a 5'6 220 pounds black guy not to mention 18.

2-3 years in age I can understand but beyond that you start to get into a different time and though process(My parents are almost 20 years apart and not married so I'll take that as a sign that age gaps cannot be drastic) I work with her but I never get to take breaks with her therefore rarely get to talk to her unless she comes up to my register

Well actually, scratch that, have been on break with before, but when I have tried to initiate conversation it gets shot down QUICK even when I use some of that mislead and intrigue stuff "The Game" seems to repeat... Should I move on? Even if I do? To what, she quite literally is the only woman.

And if I do move on then what? I am applying to a university but I may not have them money or qualify for the loans to live on campus(I barely paid for CCollege). In my town all of the clubs and bars are 21+.

Women really are the one thing in my life that I fail at and I want to fix it

There are lots of other ways to meet girls, they are literally everywhere, the more you go out, the more girls you'll meet. Common places are; gym, malls, busy streets, etc. The more you get out, the more people you come into contact with and the more girls you become friendly with.

As for the age range - in my experience, anything up to 8 years age gap can work, from there on, it's just a difference of generations, it can work, but it's much much more difficult.

I'd suggest that you start going to the gym and getting fit, the more you exercise - the more physically attractive you become and the happier you become. If i was you; I'd also make the effort to list out all the specific qualities that you would like in your dream woman, and start qualifying girls against that. Having rock bottom standards isn't positive for your happiness, it'll only lead to heartbreak because you're unsure of what you're looking for.

Best of luck my friend,
~JR.

edit: also, on meeting girls - what are you interested in? Get out and do those things man, you'll be amazed at the people you'll meet with similar interests and just how easy it is to connect with them.

In this typical case, I'll say you have to work on your maturity!
You are 18 and she is 24/25.

Try to know what is her field of study
About her activities (sport, leisure, travel, ...)

You have to find some common point or something to challenge her.
Show you have interest and more deep knowledge, passionate about something that could be attractive to her (something else than car or football knowledge of course;)

I go +/- 10 years without problems... Yes I am so old that that is legal!

Just game like you always game...

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Be yourself - Interesting, mature, confident .. Show your no walkover.

I already work out. Have been for a year and a half now. I am not looking for some dream girl to spend my life with. I am looking for sex. I am a pretty independent person, but that is an area that I have problems in.

Fuck, qualities would be 6-10 of the attractive scale not retarded and has a nice butt. Thats it. Every girl I've gone after fits that. My rock bottom standards are so low for every time I got rejected buy an upper half girl I started looking lower. I already do everything I'm interested in. Hell even one of those things I've gotten sick of and stopped doing.

Its a big obstacle really, only liking a very few things...Don't get me wrong, I have tried other things(sports, volunteering, swimming, rock climbing, camping, bike riding,trap shooting,fising etc) but it either became to expensive too maintain or I outgrew it. Moreover, I stopped liking the activities and lost interest in them over time.

So I can't really go and "get out and do those things" I really can't go out and draw and attract girls. Ive taken every art class available in my city 3 times in my lifetime by now and you can't go out and play video games, I've been trying to cut down on that as well.

Which is where the problem comes majorly. I used to draw and play video games, thats it. Now that I've stopped doing that I don't do anything else...

And to your point of getting out and meeting people, when I used to go out and do alot of stuff, I never made friends let alone got friendly with women. You know the phrase "One time at band/camp?" I was the one guy at the *camp that didn't get to play "doctor" with the girls...

Case in point, I used to really like art. Last year actually, there were some cute girls in my art classes. So I figured that would be a good thing to talk about since we obviously had similar interests. Only got one girl's face book. And she is taken(breaking up relationships or making a girl cheat is a dick move and against the Code of Man). Thats it. Out of everything that I know in this world, art was the thing I new the most and I couldn't connect with someone in that field...

Did I do something wrong? Being myself hasn't gotten me anywhere.

Have you asked yourself, what is the problem? Where do you see a problem in yourself? Being yourself can get you somewhere with belief in yourself, you already workout so that's good too.

I have. I cannot figure it out. Obviously I am not turning women on and not making them want to see me in the future. I do not know why, maybe this PUA stuff will help. But I am not 100% fit but I do not lift for definition I lift for strength. It can't be that I've seen fatter with better. It cannot be because I am short, Ive seen short with better.

I have thought about how my race. I specifically go after white girls(I don't really have a choice I live in Iowa) and I do not find black girls attractive and they do not find me attractive because I lean more towards Bill Cosby/Barack Obama than I do Kanye West/50 Cent. I have considered race to be an issue but I've seen black guys with white girls, hell my friends complain about how the girl they want is taken by a black guy so it can't be that.

Maybe its because I am blunt and say what needs to be said and don't soften it up to be nice. Maybe its because I talk in a low gruff voice. Maybe its because I speak quietly when to one person because I am a tad self-conscious of others hearing our conversation. Who knows? I haven't found the problem.

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First of all Billy, forget the maybe's man, this is a new start for you.

I'd advise reading up as much on inner game as possible and putting more into practice. Experience = Win.

Put race aside, I'm European/mixed race, hell some women don't like my race, but there are ways around this, because it comes from inside really, that's where appeal comes from.

I say you have to look at things in a more positive manner. Have you done research on the Master PUA's? Some were in your situation in regards to women not liking certain aspects (or so they think).

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I've tried looking at it positively in a sense that oh she doesn't like me because blank, well fuck her where is the next girl. But when it happens girl after girl...

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Which becomes failure after failure and only a fool with a mental disease can remain confident and upstanding after many failures