Sharing of my first steps/crazy stories. Any feedback? :)



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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 2:45 pm 
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Hey guys and PUA-Masters
Let me share some stories with you, possible entertaining you and giving me some feedback for improvement. I have several questions for you:

Where do you see my problems to care about and how would you do it?
What do you especially think about the situtation with HBangel?


preperation/inner game
no more smoking! sports every 1-2 days. keeping alcohol down. every 1-2 days a meditation. targeting my goals, writing down goals for the life/day/month. trying to communicate as deeply as much with everyone possible. beeing a honest person with strong impact. I understood that for beeing very strong you need to be very honest = direct = with high impact.

Night 1, the techno temple
Loud techno beats, huge dancefloor. I am dancing 1-2 hours making me feel highly relaxed with my body. I imagine how it would feel like smoking a cigarette or a joint, I just trick my head like i would be very stoned, which makes the music like an ocean of sound where you are diving in, then i just start diving in. How great would this be, when I could PU like i can just dance.
Some HBs around me, enjoying the music like me. I see hairs, smiles and some or very extatic. I want to get contact with them but dont know how exactly. (?) I start dancing towards some HB, making eyes contact but I dont want to be too direct, I dont want to loose my flow. Nor I want to break HBs-dancing flow. Which way I can handly this better? Just dancing side-by-side is not enough. Say something? too loud and dont know what. From time to time 2 attractive female friends of me meet me on the floor and push my social proof up talking to me and spending me beer. Perfect base for some dancefloor-PU, but HOW?! You cannot just direct-dance towards dancing HB like a player dancing to 80s hits, this looks cheap on a technoparty. no-go. there must be a good stilistic better way.

I decide to do some approaches. I have absolutly no idea what to say (this is getting a serious problem). I walk around, thinking about a sightly bad taste of the beer in my mouth. And there is my opener:"Hi, do you have a bubblegum?". HB 6 sitting next to her girlfriend, both are chatting. I am taking a seat next to her (her back is turned to me), wait 20 seconds (too long i know) and ask her about a bubblegum. She hasnt recognized me before (or she looks like it) turning away his back and facing me now responding:"no sorry, but wait."(asking her gf) "...no bubblegum." - I am trying to keep the conversiation up... (thinking i need something fast).. "I look for a away to flush this beer taste." She does not response in any way to keep the conversation up, she wants to keep talking to her girlfriend. There is a Hb 6 running around with a bubblegum. I walk directly up to her, asking she for a gum and she....looks at me, put her bubblegum out and presents it to me with "you can have this". I am thinking WTF?! and make her move on. I hear the HB 6 and her girlfriend behind me laughing, obviously watching me. I am smiling a little bit too, kinda funny indeed but somehow.. This is all just rubbish!.. I think and go on.

I just wander around, not exactly picking up but randomly let myself, speak to some persons, face rush through my view. Some of them are smiling as I smile too. There was an HB8 smiling with a little more soul-deepish touch. Very nice! I look back, she is away. I think to myself: Damn you have to be realy fast and very aware of the people around you. I am going done the second floor. Meet some people, chat with man. HB-butterfly on the floor. Blond, with realy big eyes, very soft movements, she is the most attractive girl around. I know her somehow, I watched her sometimes earlier dancing. Something tells me she knows me too. I go up to her:
Swarm: "Hi, how do you do? we know each other. dont remember yet from where."
HB-butterfly (watching me very sceptic, obviously thinking what cheap way of gaming is this?)"I dont know you." turning away - and there is a Bitshield!
Swarm (thinking how arrogant she can be, she is attractive but not even HB9) "Sure you dont know me? I dont believe you. Whats your name?"
Soundsystem:"BOOOM BOOOM BOOOM"
HB-butterfly:"......."
Swarm:"What?!" (shit soundsystem)
Soundsystem:"BOOOM BOOOM BOOOM"
HB-butterfly:"......."
I needed to ask this 4 times and she allways responded. I was suprised because in the same time she was trying to keep her bitshield up and up as much as she could with her body-language.
HB-butterfly:"I love this music, its the best thing to me." (still bitshielding way of expression)
Swarm:"I know exactly what you mean."
Bitshield response, she expresses that she does not believe me, that I look like a random who has now clue what culture this music got. She obviously does not know that she is talking to one of the most influencal musicans around, or (what I do not believe) he is faking it for a bitshield.
Then I made a decision, what am I doing? This is needy.
Swarm:"Bye"

I am having a flavoured tee with me. I met a friend he is chatting with a HB8 "asianchai". I show some social skills and let both taste from my tea. Somehow (dont remember exactly - even I wasnt drunk) my friend is leaving and she stands next to me dancing. I lean to her saying she just drunk tee with a dip of gin in it.
HB-asianchai:"ohh noooeess. dont like it."
Swarm:"Oh sorry, do you want a better tea."
HB-asienchai:"no its okay." she keeps on dancing.
I dont want to interrupt her dancing without showing of a needy talk to her. Also I dont have an idea on how to approach more on her. So I leave. .. what have I could done? Know while writing this. I should just bought here something better without asking?

A few hours later a working-college I met is buying me a beer and drink the half of it and decide to go home. I am walkin towards HB-butterfly "Hi Butterfly, want my beer? I am leaving." She is thankfull, I just leave here showing her who the alpha is. OMG, this is so beta. I just dont know how to keep conservations up and then I quit. lame! I leave, and I exactly know I could make a far better close on HB-butterfly. I also know, she wont forget me and next time I will have an advance on her.

Lessons learned:
- Dancing game needs to be learned
- You have to be very aware and very fast
- I hate beeing needy, because I am somehow
- Be natural as you are, dont play a game. Be it.

Problems:
- Conversation, keeping conversation up. especially while bitshields
- Openers
- Ideas, Creativity stuck! not fast enought thinking
- Leaving way too fast, not going for kino, escalation, close.

Night 2, a bigger private Party
The exact next day I will take a second try. I am walking to a private event. I know around 5 people more or less (100 guests) I start having conversations with them. There is a bit dancing, some chatting. I feel like a little bit outsider. I know it needs to be changed. By the way I am not in a real PU-intention. I feel tired from the technonight yesterday. I try to make conversations with everyone I know a little bit and to some man I dont know yet. The music is soft, great for conservations.
And then I see HBAngel. Usually you would call her a HB 7-8. But from my point of view she deserves a 9 because there is no makeup, no special dress. Just she, as natural with blond hairs as god has formed a true angel and then I somehow just stand up and directly walk to her: "Hi, my name is Swarm and I want to know more about you." I wonder about the way how relaxed and straight I am without even thinking about. Seems like the bad experience last night pay out in some way.
I quikly sit down to her and then we talk, dance, drink together. From time to time I move away, talk to other people. Show some social proof. And return to her with great smile for each other. Great!
I am not C&F nor I do kino. I havent known that this would crush the situation with HB-Angel later. After no sleep and 2 parties I want to go home. I say goodbye to her hugging her (like usual meeting friends) and there she and me have a little kino which is a little more ahead of hugging. I cannot change my frame this fast and keep going. Not escalating, no more kino. But Numberclose.

Lessons learned:
- Use kino, be C&F, escalate to KC! there wont happen anything when I wont do it.
- opening just one set seems to be working but its also hard to build social proof and not beeing to needy.

HBAngel in the park
The week is going. I cannot forget HBAngel. I arrange a date in the local park. She is bringing me coffee. I am bringing her a muffin. How nice. Since 2 hours we got a little beautiful lake in the park. We talk much about life, whishes and stuff like that. She talks about her ex. She quited because he loved the sofa more instead of going out with her (what an idiot I think). Her bodylanguage is somehow closed. I cannot find a way for kino. I am talking about my ex too (is it a mistake i think?). I get confused. She seems closed. I have to go the office. We decide to make sports on the next day. I am somehow dissapointed and i cannot read her somehow closed bodylanguage. nevertheless we had a great conservation, not realy funny and attractive, but still good.

Next day: My phone rings, new sms. Putdoor-Sports is cancelled. She doesnt likes the weather. But she is offering a meeting on the weeking, she will call. My Answer: "Okay." by the way. I am happy as hell because I still cannot forget HBAngel out of my head but I dont want to be an easy target for her, especially because I cannot understand her intentions. Is it a shittest? What kind of? Does she know what she wants?

Night 3, Pure Extasy
My plan for this night is going to a bar. Alone. There are some people (not friends) I know a little bit. I am improving my outer game and inner game. Sports, meditation. After working in the office I shop some peackocing elements. A HB8 at the ornament-shop glares at me. I know it, she is finding me interesting. I feel somehow in a very very good state. I dont finish her in any way. I just leave again. And here is my enigma. I a leaving way to often, without any way to a close or engament. The same in the supermarket. HB7 runs out the door with a lot of packages. She looks at me I look at her. I say "Hi" she is amazed, she is needy, I just need to ask her to put her packages in her car for her and then maybe just lay her. I smile at her and go into the market. Again, I am cutting a good approach before it realy happend. What the hell is my problem? I am thinking about HBangel to much.

At my phone rings. HBAngel asks (sms) me if the date for outdoor-stuff is still on my plans and if i would come to a club tonight where she wants to go. My answer is "sure. meet you in the club.". I knew this will be a KC tonight maybe more. this is fore sure. My state is genious, she invented me to come. Perfect. I go for the bar. I socialise with everyone I know a little bit. I am sitting between people I almost little knew before and making great talks with them. They accept me, i build up my social proof. Its great. Perfect state. I dont tell them about my plans in the club. Later i start to know, a bad mistake. There are some HBs sitting. I think about approaching them. I have no exact idea how and with what kind of opener. I knew it must be direct. I dont to it. Later I know, it was a bad mistake.

A few hours later: I am in the club. No HBAngel. The music rocks amazingly! I am in a cloud of shaking and moving bodys. Pure Extasy. I realy enjoy it. The club is full of people. I have no more talks, no social contact. There is just... just Dancing and body language. There are HBs around me on the floor, I am thinking about just grabbing them. But then there is a HBAngel in my head. 3(!) hours later I sit on the couch. I am sweating. I am heavinly relaxed. And then HBAngel waves for a hello. This time i go directly. I am C&F as much as possible, I start to approach kino on her back, her hip, her arms, her face too. She smiles. then it happens again. She stops conversation in a very strange way. She is not responding any kino. She is not keeping conversation up. WTF!?
Shittest? Why? Confused. A few moments later (half hour I guess) She asks for bringing me something to drink. I say I come with you. And grab her arm pulling her with me. I am the alpha baby. I dont grab her hand directly, I just pull her gently through the dancefloor. We take our drinks and there again is this cold response. No kino, no conversation. We turn back with our drinks. I dance a little bit and follow her with my drink a bit delayd. And what do I see?!

HBAngel is talking to HB-Asianchai! (the one from the techno-temple) "This is Swarm." I say hello to HB-Asianschai. I smile at her (no gaming), lean down to her and say her that we allready know. She looks a bit confused. I explain the situation with the chai. And then she remembers and laugh, smile and kinos my arm. I directly respond and touch her hip very softly for a short time. HBAngel is next to us and watching us. Ooops. I quit talking to HbAsianchai and engage to HBAngel. Again Trying to make a conversation -> no real response. Just bla bla. nothing to game with. Even no more kino. The next 2 hours I try to get her into conversation, dance, kino several times. NO RESPONSE. WTF?!

Guys, I realy have no idea whats went wrong with this women. I went home. After getting 2 more bitshields from another women offcourse. (but it just made fun of it).

Lessons learned:
- never ever quit possible social connections or interactions for a HB which is not your GF! No matter how sure you are about here.
- There is some big think I dont realy get with HBangel, something which went wrong and I dont realy now what.
- Quiting an approach is BAD. the only enemy I got is myself. And I have to take care about this wall in my head.


feedback would be nice! Thank you!


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