Hi I remember seeing this forum a while back and have finally decided to try it out. Seems awesome, a community of people that help guys out with saying the right things, giving advice like how to tell if a girl is compatible and stuff like that. If I am supposed to search the stickys and stuff first I apologize, I believe that each situation is different though. I have a date tomorrow and I could really use some advice.

I met this girl, would say an hb8 with an hb9 personality 3 weeks ago. She came with one of my friends and went to a party with us. I was surprised at how cool she was, looks aside, eventhough shes an hb8. We just kinda talked, nothing special. Last week she came to another party with us, she kinda is starting to hang out with my group of friends now. We were talking pretty much all night but she was also talking to everyone else too. At the end of the night she got so drunk and I could tell one of my friends would have taken advantage of it so I got a friend to take her home and I picked her up the next morning to go get her car. She didnt really understand why I did that at the time but I said "youll thank me later" When I dropped her off she was trying to kiss me but I told her that I didnt want to kiss her for the first time when she was trashed. (plus I heard she just threw up)

The day after the party she texted me some bullshit question basically asking if I could invite her on a rafting trip in a couple months because I was talking to her about it at the party, so she atleast listened to what I was saying haha. So a few days ago I texted her asking if she wanted to hang out, she said yeah. I didnt say "date" because I didnt wanna scare her off, but she should be able to tell what im doing unless shes a total airhead.

So my problem usually is..... I end up telling a girl that might be interested in me that I like her too soon and they get bored, I end up doing all the texting, then they blow me off because they know they can have me. So what would be some good tips on making this date work and not making that same mistake? Maybe not act as interested or should I take the confident route and just be straight up and see what she has to say? I know that atleast 2 of my friends are probly trying to do the same thing with her, I dont think she likes them like that but who knows. I never talk about her to my friends that are hitting her up because I dont wanna sound jelous.

Would it be best to make a move and take my chances or just wait back and take my chances that she wont start to like my friends and then be more aggressive when I know her a bit better? I definently would rather try and fail than become in the friends zone with her haha. Also any first date tips would be awesome =). Thanks guys.

if anything, you're almost moving too slow.

the main advice is don't do any stupid ass first dates

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read through the posts on that thread and get a good date and guaranteed you'll be inside her by the end of the night

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Agree! Dating sucks, too much pressure.

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