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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:54 pm 
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Whenever i try to act alpha people i feel alone, it feels like everyone around me disappears. How do you get people to follow you and make them your followers? Are alphamales popular?


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alpha males are leaders.

maybe you're misinterpreting it to mean dicks

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yes but how do you make people follow you.. thats my question.. i have started acting alpha and it hasnt gone that good.. i feel like a dick and i think people see me as if im trying to be someone im not..


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Ok, I will help you out here man.

There is a big big difference between being a leader and a boss. Just the same way it is a big difference between being an alpha or a beta trying to be alpha.

The leader leads, the boss bosses people around.

For example, the alpha male will not be mean or treat people in a bad way. Why in the world would he wanna do that.
The reason people treat each other bad is usually because they feel threatened in some way. Either by a challenge or by the fact that the other guy may be even more alpha. Hence, you are not the alpha male, you are beta. If you meet another guy who is cooler or that you are not sure where you stand against, you are beta. A lot of people would say that this depends on the situation. But it doesnt. If you are truly alpha, you can appreciate or even admire a guy with extreme inner game. You feel happy to meet him. He is pleasant to be around and there is no challenge, none of you have anything to lose. Both of your statuses are so high that you cannot bring each other down, only increase each others statuses.

A beta male thats trying to be alpha act like the people I think you refer to. They can not take a challenge. They talk like they have all the answers and like they are the shit. They try to convince everybody that they are the best and coolest guys alive and that they are superior to everyone. They might even insult people on pickup forums. ;)
A true alpha male wouldnt do that. He would not even need to face the challenge, he has already won. He does not need to convince anyone, it is obvious that he is alpha. Nobody can take that from him so why would he even bother. He acts like a friendly cool guy, because he is not trying to be better than anyone, if the situation presents itself, the outcome will be obvious.

The beta male is always on guard for people who might damage his status. The alpha male is above such nonsense. A challenge is childish and not even worth his attention, he ignores it.

So basically, there is no way to act alpha without risking that people will find out. In order to act truly alpha, you have to become truly alpha. You need to build up your confidence, you need to search yourself and rid yourself of all those fears you have. All insecurities. All doubts.

Another thing I reacted on was that I get the feeling that you refer to your old friends, like before you started doing pickup. It is not so strange that they think that you are acting like an idiot. You completely changed your behaviour into someone they dont know. Not so good.
I have grown into my role so it doesnt seem unnatural anymore. Thats why my friends accept it. And Im not trying to be someone Im not. That is also important.

Be friendly, be humble and be fun. But if you do that with weak inner game you are a loser and if you do that with strong inner game you are untouchable. It may not make sense right now but it will. Girls can tell the difference. Why are you acting nice, is it because you dont wanna play with the big guys or is it because you dont wanna play with the small guys? They are the same guys, it is only your perspective that changes.

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EZO.. great post

..I want to add something less general thou. Try being a nice guy, not in the term of NICE GUY. I mean be nice to people, laugh entertain, smile. Entertainers are real Alphas, ppl want to stay around them NATURALLY. You will feel much better if you will be funny and fun to be around then the typical COOL GUY (which more often then not is not that cool)

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They might even insult people on pickup forums. ;)
hey, we do that for two reasons

1. to G-check people
2. to bond

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great thanks for all the responses..

but generally thats who i am today.. im a very fun guy and so.. but i have weak inner game..and at the end of the day i dont feel like people want to hang out with me.. i really want people to be after me

and can you guys define the meaning of being nice? like doing favors for people or what?


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great thanks for all the responses..

but generally thats who i am today.. im a very fun guy and so.. but i have weak inner game..and at the end of the day i dont feel like people want to hang out with me.. i really want people to be after me

and can you guys define the meaning of being nice? like doing favors for people or what?

sounds like you have the same issues as i do at the moment.. acting like someone im not.. you have to make it look natural and let them feel it naturally that you are alpha...its a very complicated thing and i think its down to body language and voice tone rather than your jokes or conversations.trial and error my friend


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2. to bond
Ha ha, or being insulted by the same guy, its a special feeling! ;)

On doing favours for people. No thats not it. I mean nice as in not being an asshole. Doing favours is fine if they are small and not a great sacrifice for you. If you are doing them to buy their approval it sucks. If you do it because it takes 0.0001% of your leftover energy anyways and doesnt matter, its good.

Many people think that alphas are selfish assholes that treat others like inferiors. That is not true. Alphas are very very nice people that would go to the end of the world in order to help their friends. The key word here is friends. Your inner circle.

You dont go around helping random strangers huh, that would take too much energy. So you limit it to your inner circle. Here is where the important part comes in. A loser who has no girls in his life takes all chances to count a girl as one of his inner circle people. He will even go out of his way to do it. A guy with choices has all of his inner circle spots taken up already so the only way to get in is to be better than random member of his inner circle and steal that persons place. There are no vacancies. You are alpha, you have a lot of friends right. An inner circle can only be so big. So the girl you are sarging has to earn her spot before you start giving her any special SPAM. But you are allowed to do it to your friends that are in your inner circle.
Basically it is energy distribution management.
How can you know if she is worth it when you just met?

Think about that.

And be friendly to everyone, no special SPAM unless she deserves it.

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Think about it like a tribe of monkeys, there is the alpha, he is the provider, he is the protector. the other monkeys follow him and treat him nice not because he's a meany but because it is the natural order of things because he provides the food and the shelter and all that. So overall you should not be selfish and a dick but be someone that can take care of others, it's not a "big deal" to do a favor like... erm I dunno, wait a few more minutes or walk a girl home or something. BUT, don't overdo it, and just be her bitch

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okay i think i got it now.. but really i cant see the difference. lets take an example.. in my class in highschool. we got the popular ones and the nonpopular... almost all the popular ones are alpha.. but what is it that separates the non popular ones from the popular? because i cant find anything special about them. it feels like everyone is nice and funny but there are still alphas and betas...


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okay i think i got it now.. but really i cant see the difference. lets take an example.. in my class in highschool. we got the popular ones and the nonpopular... almost all the popular ones are alpha..
No they are not.

You are in highschool. At most they are alpha boys. And not even that. They are beta. As I remember it, highschool was a constant strive for power, by definition almost all are betas trying to climb on each other.

In the aquarium on fish might be dominant but a 4 year old boy can still pick him up and flush him down the toilet. The aquarium is highschool and the 4 year old boy is any random aldut from the real world.

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haha nice... so what would the best thing for me be to do? any tips?


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stop being a dick, and be a leader

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Exactly!

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