I have a bit of a "soft" physique, but I'm not overweight. I could use some working out though, tried P90X but it got in the way of my laziness. And I have this thing on my arms and upper chest, it is like a bunch of red bumps. They're not too noticable but I've seen people at my school with this too. I have stuff for it and it helps but they are still there. I guess what I'm asking is, is it really that important if she is already attracted to you what you look like with your clothes off?

EDIT: In my head I just imagine a HB10 standing there looking weirded out and tottaly turned off. Because shallow girls care about that kind of stuff right?

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hey man just play like a f'in champ. Hit the gym... You will benifit in so many ways. Going to the gym used to be hard for me for the first couple of months but now I look forward to going to the gym all day while im sitting in class. But anyways back to the quesiton you asked..

Umm, I guess it depends on the girl. But what would you rather have on top of you? Hard body model or doughy average chick?? theres your answer....

Good thing about this is you can change it, and its not NEARLY as complicated as pua. If you can get the girl into bed then working out will be nothing.

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Yea that makes since, I'll hit up P90X again tomorrow. By the way, I have a home gym, sort of. It is set of dumb bells up to 75 I think, pull-up bar, dip thing, ab thing, and push bar things. Oh and a workout bench thing too.

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yes girls care about your physique. If you have already gotten her to your room she will not leave if you take your shirt off and she doesnt like what she sees but she may be disappointed.

My point - be the best you, you can be. Everybody can keep themselves in shape, if you dont your either lazy or v v v busy (which can be sorted with prioritising and better time management). There is always time for gym.

Now dont just hit the weights. Id advise you start off with some circuits to lose that extra puppy fat and then you can start lifting heavy. You wont see muscle definition with fat there anyway. And work HARD!

I have a good physique and am sure it helps with the initial 1st impressions part of my game.

Hope that helps.

Solo

PS. if you have equipment - great. But you dont even need it to get in shape. Do body weight exercises (push-ups etc.)

i agree that girls care about you physique and you should work out, but for the couple of months between now and when you feel totally comfortable getting undressed in front of a girl, keep in mind that PUA tactics apply just as much to physical factors as personality.

Just like you can sell a girl your personality by being confident and showing a sense of humor, you can treat your body the same way. whatever you do, don't go into hiding between now and when you feel your body is "ready"

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Now I'm all pumped up and will work out sometime today or tomomorrow.

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What about things you can't immediately take care of, like strange birthmarks, localised skin conditions, awful tattoos etc?

It sounds to me like your thinking about it way too much. Just put it out of your mind. I have acne scars on my back, and stretch marks on my arms from gym. It's not a big deal to me and girls notice that. If I don't care about it, then they don't either.

I have no idea what you guys are talking about! What forum did I log onto? CHICKS DON'T CARE ABOUT LOOKS! This is the whole reason why Game works for anyone. I'm black and I have successfully fully closed women that have said they have not and would not ever be with a black man. If your in a seduction location and your taking your shirt off...it's on. Plain and simple. I also have a birthmark on the side of my face that makes it look like I have one side burn...never a problem. I've got MLTR's that to this day still don't know if it's a birthmark or a burn. It's a non-issue. If you truly look at some of the top PUA's in the game today you will notice all different types of body shapes, races, and looks. Tall and lanky, short and fat, it doesn't matter. Stand up straight, keep eye contact, speak loudly, take a shower, shave, and just game. Chicks care about social standing, not looks. trust me on that.

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You don't sound like you know very much about working out. I would advise doing one session with a Personal Trainer (I am one) because we teach you alot of what you need to know in the first session. You will definately get alot better results and bigger gains if you saw one to learn the basics then go and use your home gym

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My dad used to be a body builder so I'll just ask him. I have all the resources I need at my house lol.

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SITH - your right to a point but you cannot seriously buy into the notion that girls do not pay attention to how much they are physically attracted to a guy??!!!

The game has highlighted the fact that it doesnt matter AS MUCH as guys think it does, as women judge more on character than looks as aposed to most guys who judge first mainly on looks. But it stops there imo, it doesnt matter as much as we think but it does but it still matters.

Solo

SITH I am not saying that you need to have a ripped body to get with chicks. OrigionalPrankster doesnt have one (no offence,lol) and hes getting with chicks. I'm just saying that they would RATHER have a ripped body on top of them then a doughy one. Having a ripped body shows more than looks, it shows your healthy and you care about your body and what you look like. If your trying to be "the best you, you can be" you will not accomplish that with out looking at the physical part of you life...

OP - here is a good forum for nutrition, working out, cutting fat and building muscle. These guys know what there talking about and I'm on there too, if you have any quesitons.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/

my name on there is Floods7 as well.

Give em hell

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PSHHH I dont think your body matters, Im a skinny guy I got abs but nothing special my fat friends get more pussy than me and from hott girls, I look at like if you got a bad body but like a huge cock, IM SURE ANY GIRL WOULD TAKE HUGE COCK BAD BODY as oppose to small cock banging body.

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Yes, they care, not as much as guys, but they do care, especially if its for a one night stand, where everything is more physical, and especially especially when your in a holiday resort.

If its a girl you have been dating you'll be fine, if she give you a test just frame it as in you don't care, and she wont care. "your a little fat" "well then you don't get to pat the Buddha belly" is the classic example.