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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:08 am 
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...Through out my life, ive been sort of sheltered and didnt really start becoming outgoing till now. im 18 years old now, and i feel like i lack the social skills or sort of outgoing attitude i need to be considered fun to be around or an attractive person in terms of getting a relationship. like just recently i met this girl and we flirted alot over the internet, but then when i met her in person and hung out (with her sister...), we didnt have ANYTHING to talk about and now she barely talks to me and i fear is flirting around with some kid i know is sort of a player and is known for getting laid alot...plus shes a hardcore party girl, like REALLY hardcore party and the kid is just a big muscular beast...so yeah.w000h. im good looking as some girls have told me, but im short...(5'6-7), and im very muscular and i can play guitar REALLY well....only, i just cant hold an interesting conversation with a girl....idk i just cant think of things to talk about...leaving me dull and lame...
i can be funny at times, but i hardly ever talk in class ( i am shyish, never raise my hand, ppl sometimes forget im in the room...) but then sometimes im rly talkative when its the right moment. idk i just feel like i cant flirt well at all. i feel like i have the looks and stuff for it...just not the words to back me up. ive also had some rly bad experiences with girls and relationships and i guess u could say its sorta putting me down and gradually just making my social skills plummet out of depression of not ever getting lucky with a girl....

but anyway, how do i become good at conversation with girls or anybody and become more charming? i want to be noticed! i hate being neglected and i want to seriously change to a very social person!

p.s- dont get me wrong iv had a gf before, and im not totally clueless...but i always tend to have bad experiences with nearly every girl i happen to meet...just my luck. ( im a virgin, never even had a blowjob or handjob in my life...i know..sad..)

some1 cure me please? haha

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:57 pm 
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im 18 years old now, and i feel like i lack the social skills or sort of outgoing attitude i need to be considered fun to be around or an attractive person in terms of getting a relationship.
First and foremost, you are doing the right thing by starting young and committing to working on your game.

1) You need to get your social skills and social life in order. Just remember on principle and you should see great improvements. "You get what you give." When you go out, give people interest. Find something to be geniunely interested. Stop looking for a relationship and build a social life. Polish your social skills first.
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ive also had some rly bad experiences with girls and relationships and i guess u could say its sorta putting me down and gradually just making my social skills plummet out of depression of not ever getting lucky with a girl....
I have to be blunt here. This mindset is borderline toxic. The past is over. Let it go. You are a different person every single day when you wake up. I recommend you read Ekhart Tolle - The Power of Now. You are wasting VERY valuable time looking into the past and projecting your insecurity and fear onto the present. Again if you have no social skills, you will be horrible with women. Women are social.
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but anyway, how do i become good at conversation with girls or anybody and become more charming? i want to be noticed! i hate being neglected and i want to seriously change to a very social person!

p.s- dont get me wrong iv had a gf before, and im not totally clueless...but i always tend to have bad experiences with nearly every girl i happen to meet...just my luck. ( im a virgin, never even had a blowjob or handjob in my life...i know..sad..)
Conversation is again about a 50/50 exchange of geniune interest in each other. It can also be playful banter and fun. I think you need to loosen up and just live life for what it is. You are probably at a place where it is time to work on yourself and be honest with your fears and insecurities. You will never conquer your love life if you are a wuss.

I know the brain loves to have a step by step plan of action, so here is yours.

1) Let yourself make mistakes. Give yourself permission to fail as there are no failures in life, only learning experiences.
2) Committ to becoming better, doing whatever it takes.
3) Force yourself to go out and make friends, put yourself on the line, not being afraid to say what you really want and just let the cards fall where they may.
4) Open up, let your guard down about the past and just let yourself shine out. Don't even think, turn your mind off.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:58 pm 
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thank you, this opened up a new outlook for me. I need to stop craving the need for a girlfriend and loitering in the past, and concentrate on myself now to better my social skills for the future. Do you recommend any other books for me to read?

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