Hey guys,how do I introduce the community to non-members(as friends,etc.)?

To be honest,Im not the type to spill the beans on anything I do.

My friends dont know that I do pick-up over the years.

They just know that Im good with women.

If I were to want to tell them or even coach them a bit,how do I go about it?

No guy wants to admit that they're bad with women and may need some advice.

So for me to say to a friend of mine(a natural or AFC),"I study pick-up and I think you should get with it".

That could subcommunicate that they need help and they may resent me-feeling that Im a know-it-all.

So,how do I get this across to them without seeming condescending?

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After you have opened a good set. Tell your friends (who will likely asked about it) that, it was not always this easy, and that you put allot of work into it. (slightly beta yourself) and from there, if they ask like what? tell them, if them seem uninterested, then there is no point. I have rocked the boat a little when i told some friends of mine how i role, just because it gives them no reason not to be good with woman, but they do not want to come out of there comfort zone and DO something about it.

Good luck

Good technique Double J;I'll try that.

Definitely,if they dont take the bait(after seeing me working a 2-set or something),I'd just leve it alone.

Personally,I dont care to fill them in because Im naturally a confidential guy about my lifestyle unless Im in field.

Whichever of the guys in my social circle shows interest,I'd let him know whats up.

But years go,I read an online article by Tyler Durden(1 of my favorite dating coach)callled"Secret Society".

It basiaclly says that to keep the community on the down low;which I agree.

He says in other words that the best candidate for learning seducion are guys who recognzie a problem and seek help on it(via internet like I'd done).

But to actually tell guys about pick-up; guys who dont think they have prob' with getting the girl,it wont be received with open arms but jealousy.

Do yall agree guys(or Double J)?

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I totally agree, some guys don't take it that well. Some start laghuing and saying it's ridicules and that I must be joking "you either have it or you don't"...

I don't think it's something to be ashamed of but sometimes its a hassle to explain all the who and who and why. Besides some people just won't get it.

I might hint some guys that I can help them, or I'll tell a story about this guy I met who open my eyes to this shit. Or I'll generally start discussing about hitting on women (which we guys LOVE to talk about whether were in the community or not) and start from there

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For real Street light,you made few good points.

I've told few girls that Im a part of an online-dating commuinity and they're very positive about the revelation.

I've never had a girl said that's cheesy.

I stumbled across the community by googling seducing women.

As you said Streetlight,you either have it or dont.

A guy either want it or not.

I dont care for wingmen;I prefer working alone but it'd be a plus to have friends who were on the same wave length.

I have a friend who's a natural but since he doesnt have the ideals and the know how,he's limited.

I bet if I ask him(or any natural),how does he get girls,what's his philosophy?He wouldnt be able to tell me or break it down.

So having a natural as a wing isnt as good as having some one who's in the commuinity.

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From my experience this is what happened...

I told my friend about it (just part of a conversation more than "yea lets do this together man") and he read "The Game" almost a year ago. Then he started telling all of our mutual friends that he could get any girl we wanted (because he read a book... right) and then looked to me and nodded his head for my approval. Then he started buying other pick up products and that's all he'd talk about for a couple months.

When our friends would tell him to show us his "game" in action he would flake out and say "I'm not interested in women right now, go ask [Luky] to show you how it's done." Which would baffle me because I never hang out with that group in bars and it'd be weird asking for a demonstration at one of our houses.

Maybe it's best to mention it to friends who won't put their foot in their mouths. Now my buddy just talks about his dead-end job and how broke he is like he did before. Guess you gotta keep longevity in mind when sharing; if they'd actually dedicate and attempt shit.

From my personal experiences...Ive found that you can tell people all you want about "The Game", but they have to be self motivated enough if they are actually going to get into it. You cannot force this stuff on people.

Two years ago when I first read about "The Game" I was stoked. And to my detriment I had immeadiate success the first time I went out and used the material. (I believe this was to my detriment, because after having easy success my first time, I thought that PUA was going to be easy. Nonetheless I was wrong lol)....

Anyways, back on topic. Due to the fact that I had success so quickly, I boasted to all my AFC friends about it and tried to get them to read "The Game". Furthermore, to be brutally honest, they needed something like The Game because they were worse with girls than I was at the time. So when I told them they were naturally very skeptical about the whole thing. Then when I tried to show them how its done, I yipped up with AA which furthered their skepticism.

But still I kept trying to get them involved, because I wanted to have someone to talk about this sort've stuff with. In my first year with the knowledge of "The Game" I felt I struggled because I didnt have anyone to talk about methods/ theories or someone to push me.

Eventually though, one of my friends did approach me about "The Game". He was struggling with one-itis and basically hit rock bottom because he couldn't push himself to close her. As well he was dealing with some depression. So he read "The Game" and motivated himself to change his life and now not only is he slowly improving with girls, but hes a much more confident person. He's also working on improving all aspects of his life.

So to sum things up. I dont think you should be direct and say "Ive been studying PU, and I think this stuff could help you." But you could say "Ive been studying PU. Its completely changed my life. And I recommend it all guys looking to improve not only their sex lives, but their lives as wholes." And you could follow it up with explaining more of your background, and how you have progressed. And then say something along the lines of, "I think its something that might interest you. You may have skepticism. But look it up online or ask me more questions and you can formulate your own opinion. And if you feel its something you want to learn more about Im always here to help"

So thats my take. Hope it helps man.

Hey Luky,its so funny how your friend tried putting you on the spot(lol)-that was funny(lol).

But I really dont get why your friend would flake out on the demo if he claims to have game.

Fogell,you made the point that I've been making;if ppl arent self-motivated,they just wont get into it.

Great turn-around story about 1 of your friends who had one-itis(lol).

He had the motivation(on the bad end)so he approched you.

Lol,I had to laugh when you said that you crashed & burn on a sarge(via AA)trying to demo' for your buddies(lol).

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Well i am very open about what i do with my friends because i was brought into the community by via words of mouth through some of my friends. Here is a breakdown of who i have told and there reactions towards it.

Best friend (told me about it, he is my wing)

Two very close friends (told them about it, also my wings.)

Other good friends (told my best friend about it, were close friends now as a result of game)

massive afc friend (snubbed it, and has chose to remain a virgin)

3 "Natural" friends (Think, hey if it works for you go for it, they do not game, but we do pick up together)

3 Amog friends ( one remains unimpressed while the others make fun of it, try to bust up my sets, but dont get to pissed off when i blow them out)

These are the friends that i go out with on a regular basis (not so much the Amogs) and for me, it has worked to my advantage. But it is only my close, trusted friends that turned to pua, the others, dissed it, made fun of it, or couldn't comprehend it.

You just have to feel it out, if your dooing well on your own, you may not want to rock the boat.

Hey Double J,it still boggles me how open your friends were to the community-and even you.

Eventhough I dont want one,but I couldnt find a wing to save my friggin life(lol).

I do sarge with a friend of mines who's a natural but he doesnt understand social dynamics...

I remember once,we were gaming a 2 set.I was looking toward him to isolate his target(she interrupts my vibes)from mines so I can get some alone time,but since my friend doesnt know the concept of a wingman,the set gets fucc'd up!

Push come to shove,I have to call him aside and whisper in his ears to try taking his target away a bit.

To top it off,thus same friend of mines is a huge AMOG who repeatedly tries to sabotage my sarges-unknowingly he claims.

I'd even wrote a post about him(if I should cut him off as a friend for constantly fucking up my sets).

Example,I told him about this BBW HB8.5 I'd planned on sarging(she's a store clerk).

As we entered the supermarket,the natural friend of mines/AMOG says to my OYD(object of my desire-target),"Hey,K-loc has been talking about you all day and trying to find you real bad".

He fucking DLV'd me that the chic probably thought I was some kind of stalker or a guy who doesnt get any action!!

That's a prime example of an un-wanted wing.

If I can put him on to the community,that'll be great.

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