evening, boys


im new here, i found the site after discovering the PUA concept a few days ago.

ive had a couple serious gfs, but absolutely nothing in over 5 years.


anyway, theres this chick at work. shes 22, hispanic, short, HOT. im 26, avg build but getting bigger, 6'2. not horribly ugly but could be better.

anyway i work in the mall and so does she. it started with me walking down to her store to grab a few things, we got to talking and about the 3rd time i gave her my number. not long after she texted me with hers and we;ve been talking while at work.

shes single. i pretty much told her i was interested but ive been trying hard not to come on to strong, especially since discovering all of these PUA concepts.

i ahvent been able to get her to hang out with me. she seems to want to talk to me tho....

yesterday i used some stuff i found online.

i said "hey, are you free friday? my car needs a wash." (this was like the 3rd time i hinted at us hanging out)

her-what does that have to do with me?

me- well i just thought you might enjoy watching me wash my car

her- lol naaa but ill be working tho (could this mean she wants me to come up to her work?? basically she works open to close everyday in her unlces store)

me- thats too bad

her- why?

me- bc i know how badly you want to hang out with me

her- what? why do you say that?

me- most girls do.. what makes you different?

her- lol thats wazzup ima check that out

me- k

her-well its not that i dont want to but this mall is my prison

me- no worries

her-but i dont want you to have a bad impression of me when i konw its not like that

me- really, its ok, i like hard to get. im an excellent chaser.

end conversation..

so that day i was kinda sick and she knew that.

the next day i say...

me- i feel so much better today

her- why is that?

me- i think bc i slept ten hours

her- i wish i could do that

me- you could, if we ran away together.

me[again]- but im way too busy

and that was it.

i ended up walking down there and saying hi. we had an ok conversation. she at least doesnt despise me. but i jsut cant tell if shes really interested.

anyway ill stop there for now.

any questions or feedback are welcome

I next girls like this.

I want my girls to know I have a lot to offer and invest themselves openly without any games.

Most girls don't do that, so I next tons of girls I number close but oh well, my standards are more important because games make my cock shrivel.

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so youre saying just blow her off unless she texts me.

no more texting her?

yea basically,

like move on, don't even think about anything to do with her, ignore her, don't even talk to her or anything

i just don't think she is a good person, I only date good people so I wouldn't even let her back in if she came running back because she wouldn't be up to my standards but if your trying to game her, then I guess just ignore her and don't contact her.

She leaves you hanging, doesn't invest herself by trying to hang out, plays hard to get. All crap in my opinion and making it harder for you which is not worth it.

You could always keep persisting until you get rejected or succeed though. Never underestimate the power of dedication and keep trying, I just don't like feeling like I am chasing a girl. It is not worth it for me when I can meet a girl who meets me 50-50 because she knows I am a good guy just by my vibe.

1) Ignore her until she comes to you, which may be never.
2) Keep persisting confidently and risk looking/feeling like a moron.
3) Walk away, never answer her texts, she ruined her chance. *My preference*

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ouch.

the truth hurts i guess.

thanks, i tried to rep u but im not sure how this system works

ha i feel you bro, but you'll get used to it. Same old shit. About 90% of girls will do this shit. I don't even phase me anymore I just find the girls who invest themselves. I don't find many though.

It's just immature. They want you to chase them. They want to feel like you are going to keep trying and trying and trying while they give you excuse after excuse after excuse, all legitimate excuses which you can believe. But at the end of the day, is she with you? Is she making effort to talk to you? texting you? calling you? making effort for you?

If I get to a point where I have opened up and a girl knows what I'm about and she doesn't meet my investment standards, I will next her so fast she won't know what happened.

I usually make my decision about continuing after about 2 weeks after the number close. I usually try to hang out about 2-3 times and if it doesn't happen I'm done.

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yea....she did make an excuse last weekend. she didnt return a text for like 2 days and when she did she apologized and said she forgot her charger.


of course i believe it, bc i want to.


i dunno, i just dont know if i can accept it.

i must have her.


i think i can ignore her, but i cant accept that shes playing me.



i wonder..... maybe if she texts me again i can find a way to work in "im not sure youre worth my time"

would that work?

Well, like I said, persist then. If you feel comfortable. She might be into you, she might be a game player, she might be telling you the truth. I don't really know or care. I am coming from my own experience and standards and girls that play games early usually are HORRIBLE girlfriends and just set you up for a whole lot of wasted time.

Persist then if you really want her, sounds like an immature self-centered bitch to me. Keep trying to hang out with her if you don't mind feeling like this because it's only going to get worse.

But on the other hand, you could try one or two more times and finally get with her and become whatever it is you are going to become.

Point is, its all up to you. I offered my "formula" for dating. I just don't really put that much emphasis on women anymore, because I have fuck buddies so if I REALLY need to have sex I can.

I screen so fucking heavily because I want the top girls.

Why climb the stairs when you could take the elevator. Why work super hard when you can meet a girl who makes it easy because she knows she wants you.

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well thanks dude, i can tell you know what ur talking about and i appreciate your thoughts. i know youre right.


*sigh* well one thing is certain: i wont be texting her again, bc i just deletd all her texts and her number. so if she wants to text me then maybe i'll respond, but if not then its OVER


but i see what youre saying. im better than this, and youre right shed probably be a horrible girlfriend, judging by her tactics up to this point....

i dont need her.

bump?

not sure i agree. i would say chill it out a little, but keep her in mind.

after coming on pretty strong, she'll interpret you backing down as getting over it and then see how she reacts. You might get her chaisng you.

If nothing happens then, maybe it's time to next.

Also, in my experience, hispanic women are a little more used to aggressive pick-up (and the whole cocky-funny approach). she might actually not be getting the point yet.

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thanks dude. im definitely gong to keep her in mind bc i cant give up that easily.

but i can certianly ignore her for awhile.

I guess I'll take a shot at this as well. Let's start with taking apart your post a little bit:
It seems to me like she is being a little evasive whenever you come off a bit strong to her. Notice how she ends the conversation after you mention anything related to you and her being remotely together? You mention 'chasing' and she shys away. You mention 'running away together' and she runs away from the conversation. I like the fact that you are willing to say things like this and take risks. I like the way you use a funny "but im way to busy" style. In most cases, girls would enjoy this and flirt back, but let's think about why she is not. Is she recently single? Does she have another guy she is interested in? Now you on your part, when you speak to her in person, is your personality congruent with this - meaning in person, do you still come off and flirt as strongly or do you tone it down? Congruency is often something people don't keep, and this can throw off someone else's perspective of you. It send mixed signals and makes your intentions unclear.

As far as how to play it from here, I am going to tend to side a bit more with casthenova. I'm not going to go as far as to say "she isn't a good a person" or she is "immature", because let's face it, chasing in either direction is a part of the game. It's just a natural instinct and doesn't mean she is being spiteful. Let's now take a look at what your next step is. Like casthenova said, I would take the path of leaving her alone for an extent. It seems that you always send the first text or make the first move to meet up aka visit her at work. Don't. You've done your job and it seems like you've made it know that you have interest. The last thing you want to do is start to smother her or pester her with texts that she may or may not respond to.

I would back off of her for a bit and see if she comes to you. I'm not saying to become a jerk toward her or 100% ignore her, I just wouldn't make the first move. If she texts you, wait a few hours before responding or even the next day. Don't come off as too eager and just sitting there waiting for her to text you. If she calls you, sure you can pick up but keep it short and too the point OR don't pick up and call her back later on. Unless you work at the same place at the mall, don't go and visit her anymore. If you run into her by chance, don't hesitate to talk to her for a bit, but keep it short, simple, to the point, and remember to keep it up beat and flirty.

Don't get too hung up on this girl either. Right now, you haven't invested too much time or resources into her so it will be easier to move on now than it will be later on. In her perspective, the same applies. She hasn't invested too much time into you nor has she invested very much in general, so don't take it personally if she finds it a bit easy to move on as well.

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^^ great post, thanks.



well, heres what happened today. bascially i was all over the place at work, so she saw me not long after i got there and sent this.


her- hey i think i just saw you.

me[1 hour later]- oh really

nothing for about an hour, then i walked by her sitting with some kids, basically ignored her but she said hey.

so i went on my way and a few minutes later said

me- having fun?

her- naaa just helping these kids bc im bored.

me- aww how sweet

her- lol i guess

me- or not lol

her- whaaaat?

her- so what are u doing?

me- about to eat.

at this point i go down there to eat and she basically just watched me. not that i looked at her even once, but i know she was looking.

she never comes over or anything, so i leave.

heres the good part.................


15 minutes after i leave, she says

her- i dont know what to eat

me- whats that got to do with me? :p [ a reference to her earlier text]

her- oh i was just saying, sorry to bother

--this is where i go on the offensive--

me- oh come on

me- you know i want to talk to you. so why are you playn me?

her- im not playing with you. i just have a lot of shit going on rt now.

me- rt on. enuf said.


that was an hour ago and i havent heard from her. prolly never will again.


i have a couple of ideas(with varying degrees of animosity) for a follow up text. but i think its clear that it wouldnt do any good. i also have some semi apologetic text ideas, but i think we can all agree that i have nothing to apologize about. that would be SO weak.


thoughts?

personally i agree with Cas and Vegas totaly, u need to be more congruent. be the easy going flirty person to her all the time. if you are getting upset. (or she percieves you are getting upset) over something or nothing then why does she want to invest in you.

stop giving her all the power. its like you take a bit back by not texting for an hour. then give it straight back, "come on, u know i want to talk to you".

personally at this point i would simply apologise for being snappy. and leave it. if she texts back saying thats ok etc etc. just leave it. do not text back.

then i would say what vegas says, be nice, polite, flirty, and short if and when you see her.

dont intentionally not sit with her if your having lunch but dont go out of your way to have lunch with her, get me????

just be cool, go find some other women to have interactions with, have some fun.