Does the Target feel sorry for the Obstacle?



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:38 am 
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Hi guys,
I hope I've posted this in the right spot, but this is really a question about the whole MM philosophy of ignoring the target and charming the obstacles (other people in the set)
I'm totally new so I haven't opened any sets yet (gonna start real soon) but I've always wondered this:

Ok, you open a 2 set. A HB6 and a HB8. You ignore the HB8, neg her etc etc and your charming the pants off the HB6... so naturally she thinks you kind of dig her and not her hotter friend. Then you isolate and pull the moves on the HB8...

How can the HB8 not think 'I think my friend (HB6) liked this guy and she thought he was hitting on her and now he is hitting on me! I can't do this cause my friend will feel shitty.' ?

I just thought right now your wing would have to take the HB6 off your hands? But even so, it could still happen! And what if you don't have a wing!?

BTW I know tonnes of NooBs come on here and ask dumb ass questions like this, so I appreciate the responses. Cheers.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:56 am 
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IMHO, I have opened thousands of sets and I still trully believe that if your game is tight, then you can ignore the obstacle all together or rid yourself of her like Dane Cook did in my best friends girls. This does not always work but if you game tight it doesn't matter.

The safe way to o it though is to disarm the obstacle. You dont need to show attraction/interest, just pay more attention to the obsatacle. See, thing is, according to my own experience, a 2 set is the most difficult if you dont have a wing. Then the target might feel obligated to hang with the friend, she cant leave him or her alone.

The way I play a 2set with a wing is almost perfect. I would open and talk to the obstacle more than I chat to the target, wing comes in and does an accomplishment opener. He then takes over the interaction for a minute or 2. I then comment something on the side to the target, she laughs or comments, she is then baited. Wing continues to chat to target. We then reposition the group, through a very good move I must say, the target and the obstacle to almost stand back to back and I work on the target and wing keeps obstacle occupied. I will then chat for about 10 min and then isolate.

This is seriously easy with a wing. Try opening larger sets or take a friend along to keep the obstacle busy. The hardest sets to isolate are 2 sets. It's an art!!! Practice it, but remember, open bigger sets as well.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:11 am 
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Cool man thanks.
I don't think my game will be that strong for a long time yet. But what you say makes sense. Disarm, don't attract the obstacle. Use a wing or failing that, stick to bigger sets (or maybe a solo set.)

My brain is still wired to think 'as soon as I talk to any girl she will assume I'm hitting on her.' But really I'm just a friendly guy who needs their opinion on something... :P

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:16 am 
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See, you get it... That is really awesome and I hope you put this into action! At least you are in field and crashing and burning. Never hit on them, just be yourself, your best most interesting self, you are just looking for an opinion on something and you are confident enough to ask them!!!

Great stuff man


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