Hey guys,

I need some advice. I have tried absolutely every single thing I know of and still cannot break through this girl's LMR. She is genuinly a good girl. Not saying shes a virgin, I dont know because I dont ask that question and haven't even gotten to finger her but she is making me wait and I am getting frustrated.

I have tried freezeouts, which seem to work the best, as she the reinitiates, but she would then stop me again. I have tried being the one that stops escalating and telling her that I respect her and I think we should wait. I have tried constant escalation. Nothing seems to work. Dont get me wrong, we have now been seeing each other exclusively for about 2 weeks and I really do like and respect her, I just want to get the sex thing out the way so we can have a proper relationship. This is holding me back man. All I think of is getting in her pants.

I think I should mention that this has happened before when a girl I picked up perceived me as a player and therefore would not put out and this became a conquest. Once I slept with it I dumped it, just because it was not worth it. Making me wait is quite clever of the girl, it ensures that I stay attracted a little longer than I usually would and I really feel attracted to them until we fuck.

I just want to do the sex thing and know that I am attracted to her for her and not just attracted to the challenge of bedding her.

Guys, I need to get into her pants soon. Please help!!! Any advice welcome, will even run SS seduction patterns if required. Just want to mention, this is not a one-itis. I've been infactuated with 1 girl before, just need to know if this is real or just me trying to fuck her and not succeeding that has me attracted.

My old best friend did the same shit as you. One, you're in trouble if you succeed and get in her pants then leave. Two (which is what my friend did) you'll get the option to get in her pants, but just won't do it when the time comes, which you're also in trouble. Three, she'll stop playing with you because she'll think that's all you want from her, so you're in trouble.
The only winning option for you is trying a proper relationship and seeing where it goes.

Klay Mask

Thats the thing though. I am trying to have a proper relationship but I can never tell if I sincerely like this girl or if I am only seeing this as a conquest. I so want to tell everyone that, ME, the hardest, least emotianally attached person I know, has used the game to successfully build a relationship with a women of value and that it helps doing more than just build attraction and get you laid.

Problem is, I loose interest as soon as I have slept with her. I feel that I have missed a few opportunities and this has put me back a few steps. I want to show her that I respect her and that I care for her, which I do, but I also want to show her that I am sexual and I feel that the sooner I can figure out if I will like her after sex or not the better for us both.

I do not want to hurt her, that is not my intent. My intentions are always good but I cant say how I will feel once we have had sex... Get it???

Then try the super super romantic low music candles cliche, see if you can sleep with her that way, getting her in the mood. If that fails, then calmly explain how much you do respect her, but want her as well.
If you're feeling overly open, explain the issue you've had with losing interest after sex, not because you're a player which you're not, you're a PUA, but because you're physically interested in some and emotionally in few and far between. Can't gaurantee that you'll get laid right then and there, but it'll plant a thought in to her head. Don't try this unless you're POSITIVE she won't take it the wrong way and leave. I've tried the explanation, and it's worked for me a couple times, but got my shut out almost instantly a couple more.

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My plan was to own up. To tell her how I feel. But that sounds so AFC though. I attracted her by being an Alpha, by not being needy and by not giving a fuck. Now all of a sudden I'm using AFC tactics to get her into bed. Just doesn't seem like me and doesn't seem natural.

I am a leader, I take what I want (not to the extent of rape). I know she wants to, she has for the first time in her life shaved her snatch and she has told me many times that she wants to but I really think she is just scared. I should maybe just back off a little. Just for a week or so, till she really misses me. Then when she gets back, I will do something really romantic like the whole moonlit supper thing. But what a cliche.

I just think that with her being so inexperienced and with her being kinda innocent she is just freaked out by the idea

dude this is a good thing...some young HB's are really good girls and it takes time...if you keep it up you will for sure F-close. But prepare for a relationship if you stay or drama if you walk

AFCs have many many flaws, but one thing 90% of AFCs have is genuine sweetness that draws some girls in, even AFCs get laid just not as frequently.
Cliches's work, no argument. They're sweet, but they're just like "wow I feel lame" effective.
Honestly just try to lay off the sexual stuff, even super heavy making out, she'll cave from pure sexual frustration alone.

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Klayton Mask
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