Firstly im quite new to the game, so thursday I actually got a approached by a HB8 with a 'turn around i want to know if you look as good from the front' after a bit of Kino and negging she claimed she didnt know her number so I gave her my number and left with friends.

She texted me a few hours later.

Since then I've delayed texting and such and she seemed quite keen, so we arranged to go for a date today. She specified she didnt want to do a drinking date (a test?) so i suggested some alternative activites which she was pretty impressed with.

so roll on today. She says she's pretty hungover from going out last night but she's still up for the date.

I go for my date, I aim to get there early so order my taxi with plenty of time. FUCK! the taxi company fucks up and my taxi goes to the wrong place, I let her know im going to be late but her phone is dead.

Anyway i end up being 20 minutes(!) late, I arrive and she gives me a very cold shoulder no surprisingly, she's tired and she doesn't fancy the activity we were going to do. She suggests we go get dinner somewhere, so she drives me out to a pub/resteraunt.

I mention i was surprised she was still there she replies she was just about to finish her drink and go.

anyway we get to the resteraunt/pub where she negs me on entry that i look younger than she remembers, i make a failed joke/neg about her drinking diet coke but she takes it as a criticism she not drinking alcohol - i ordered a pint of beer myself which was possibly a mistake. Im not really hungry so we end up not having any food and just sit and talk for about an hour. I tried some cocky funny, but that didnt go down very well with her bringing up a few times that i was late (ouch) that aside, conversation goes a little disjointed. Meanwhile she keeps yawning and saying she's tired at various points. I take the hint and suggest time to go, she drops me off and as she does tells me "she will be in X pub on thursday night with her friends, so i know where she is if i want to find her" (IOI?)

Now i must admit i felt like a deflated balloon on my way home, I went to the date with a game plan which due to late arrival and not great mood she was in I felt it had to be ditched (perhaps i should have had more courage, i was going to attempt the shock and awe tactic as she had been keen up till that point)

anyway im not sure where to proceed from here, I feel I lost the control of the weay things have been going and now she has it.

Any help would be appreciated and an analysis of what i could/should have done better would be great.

well u failed that date, ur lateness wasn't anything but a DHV possibility, say something came up so you were a little late.

on to the date:
she was tired and yawning = BORED!!! be a little more exciting. FUCK dinner on a first date, go out and DO something. batting cages, go-karts, golf, IDC, just have FUN WITH IT! and you'll be amazed at the outcome.
but props on ending on your terms, very important

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Thanks for the response, yeah I failed miserable that time.

As for the fun we were going to do some crazy glow-in-the-dark mini-golf - we were actually met at the venue but as i arrived late and she was fuming she said she didnt want to do it anymore and as i was somewhat flustered about being so late I let her make the call for dinner - retrospectively by trying to appease her i shot myself in the foot - I should have just gone with the 'lets do the golf were here and it will be fun'.

Still not sure how i proceed though, do i just ignore her all week and then turn up on thursday night with some mates and sarge her or do I text/call her in a few days make a joke out of it all and see where that goes?

oh man. i can not tell you how often I did the whole "not talk to her for a while because xxx happened"

in my book, it was a terrible terrible mistake. one of the girls even assumed I was bipolar because I froze her out. freeze outs only work on women who you have long established the sexual tension with if ur first date goes bad, dont freeze a woman out.

to advance, idk whats going on thursday like u afore mentioned, but I would definitly try for a day 2 if ur interested. if u go to the same school wait until you see her there and use another woman (pre-selection/jealousy principle, look it up.) if u see her thursday, dont bring it up. it was a bad experience in the relationship, dont conjure up any bad emotions. women are emotional beings, men are logical. learn it, know it.

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Cheers, I'll report back how thursday goes one way or another, I aint giving up that easily and one way or another its all good practise.