There are 4 real attractive girls I'm interested in that have long-term BF's (1 year +). All of them are undeserving. They are those brain-dead morons who include "alcohol, partying and alcohol" in their list of hobbies. Obnoxious, loudmouth fags with no personality. How do I approach this issue?

First off, recognize that those guys aren't "undeserving". They got the girl, didn't they?
Second, recognize that alcohol and partying aren't negative traits inherently. Its an adventurous lifestyle, which is attractive.
Third, they aren't loudmouth fags, they're guys that know what they want and don't give a fuck.

Until you reframe this shit away from everyone being the enemy and the whole world being nonfunctional, there's no reason for you to try to approach the situations.

Let the girls have their relationship.

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You completely misunderstood me. I don't see everyone as an enemy, I get along with 99.9 percent of people. I like about 70 percent of people. I love the world, I'm very fascinated with human behaviour, psychology and biology and realize the beauty of the word.

They are in fact undeserving. They have no real passion, dedication, commitment in life. They are unintelligent, bland kind of people. Not leaders but followers who think they are leaders.

I'm not saying alcohol and partying are negative, but me mentioning how they list their interests (on Facebook) was me trying to communicate what kind of people they were. I was hoping you'd of met similar.

They're not guys that know what they want, they're the opposite. You didn't understand how I was meaning "loudmouth".

The girls are attracted to the excitment.

Either be more exciting, or walk away.

The rest of that matters little.

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That has nothing to do with the question. I've been with women that have BF's before but none that have had long-term partners. Remember these girls are like 18. So it's not super serious. And in the future, don't automatically assume I'm wrong with my judgment. I know these people personally. I come to these forums for support. Don't be the devil.

That has EVERYTHING to do with it.


You asked how to approach a situation where the girls you like are dating guys you think are worthless.

I pointed out that what you think about them doesn't matter, because they excite their girls.

So to "beat" them you need to be more exciting.

You haven't been at this as long as me. Just because I'm not telling you to say something specific doesn't mean I'm not providing wholely accurate advice.

Don't be so soft.

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